US Domestic Lounge Access

By Flashman181 | May 19, 2018, 02:48 PM
Qantas FF/QC member here but looking at some internal domestic flights in US next year so just getting head around access rules there . It seems that simply having even a First Class ticket won’t get you lounge access on domestic? Seems only real way is elite membership to partner programmes ? I know QC gets you into most Admiral Lounges but SAN Diego don’t have one only an Airspace .
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By aggie57 | May 19, 2018, 04:45 PM
That’s correct, no access for 1st class ticket without status
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By ryanpst | May 19, 2018, 04:46 PM
Don’t count on it. Last week I ended up at Burger King after Alaska Airlines declined me for entry in SeaTac.

I would go for American Airlines flights since it’s Oneworld and you won’t have any lounge entry issues on AA flights. (Even AA codeshares don’t allow lounges)
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By patrickk | May 20, 2018, 09:26 AM
I have no problem with AA but for the others forget it. Codeshares don’t count.
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By Himeno | May 23, 2018, 03:18 PM
US Domestic First class does get you access to lounges, but it depends on the route and carrier.
eg, AA F gets you access to the lounges, but only when on a 3 class flight between JFK or MIA and SFO or LAX.
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By TZB88 | May 23, 2018, 03:37 PM
I know a number of highest tier travelers in the US. Status often not a factor for Lounges. So many people over there with high status the Lounges would be heaving constantly. Most of them just buy a lounge membership.
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By John Phelan | May 23, 2018, 03:59 PM
That’s correct, no access for 1st class ticket without status

Actually, the primary factor is club membership. Status effectively grants you club membership. The vast majority of people you see in the AA lounges are paid club members. Remember the AA lounges have been around long before status was invented. They are called Admiral's Clubs - emphasis on the 'club' bit, which denotes the need for membership.
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By Flying mermaid | May 23, 2018, 04:42 PM
You have your QC membership that will get you into all the AA ones. To be quite honest they are pretty marginal (apart from the Flagship ones which are nice). They give you a quiet place to sit and a drink and a few snacks.
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By aggie57 | May 23, 2018, 04:48 PM
That’s correct, no access for 1st class ticket without status

Actually, the primary factor is club membership. Status effectively grants you club membership. The vast majority of people you see in the AA lounges are paid club members. Remember the AA lounges have been around long before status was invented. They are called Admiral's Clubs - emphasis on the 'club' bit, which denotes the need for membership.
Apologies, you are correct. I tend to forget as my Qantas Platinum status gets me into AA lounges.

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By cloud-9 | May 23, 2018, 05:32 PM
Members of AAs loyalty program are not permitted into US domestic lounges, regardless of class flown. However members of a foreign (QF, CX, BA etc) ow program are: providing they are flying F or J. Status - I think - is irrelevant in these cases
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By Racala | May 23, 2018, 07:05 PM
Honestly..why would you bother. My trips over there have taken me into the Admiral club lounges in LAX (Ex QF flight going on to Chicago - generously given 3 drink vouchers at the ent.. only "food" were pretzels. Going from San Fran to Orlando..lounge at departure (early) -standard poor coffee + mini muffins and JFK going to Heahtrow.. 3 free drink vouchers but you pay for all food. Seating is "comfortable" if you can find one, and don't forget the tip for all drinks!
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By pzlams | May 24, 2018, 05:46 AM

There's a lot of confusing information here.


The AA Admirals Clubs are going through extensive renovations and now offer a much greater variety of food and seating in many - but not all - clubs. That said, if you have access to the Flagship Lounges (LAX, ORD, JFK, MIA for now), that's the way to go.


A quick search on both airlines' sites will tell you all you need to know.


As a QC member: "When travelling with American Airlines, as a Qantas Club member you and a guest are welcome at American Airlines Admirals Club lounges. Simply present your Qantas Club card together with your boarding pass at the lounge reception. Both you and your guest need to be travelling together further that day on a flight marketed and operated by the partner airline whose lounge you wish to visit." (https://www.qantas.com/us/en/frequent-flyer/the-qantas-club/benefits.html?int_cam=us%3Athe-qantas-club%3Aarticle%3Abenefits%3Aen%3Ann)


From AA for Admirals Club access without QC membership:

oneworld® Emerald and Sapphire

Includes customers on all flights marketed and operated by American or a oneworld® airline (regardless of cabin). (https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/clubs/admirals-club-access.jsp)


From AA for Flagship Lounge access:

oneworld® Emerald and Sapphire

Get access if you’re departing on or connecting to any flight marketed and operated by American or a oneworld® airline (regardless of cabin). (https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/clubs/flagship-lounge.jsp)



Last edited by pzlams at May 24, 2018, 05.49 AM.
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By Flashman181 | May 25, 2018, 06:48 AM
Thanks for all the comments. I was aware of the QC access but as said in OP was most interested in San Diego which has no Admirals Club. I agree the lounges per se are not a selling factor but was looking at a Red Eye out of SD to NYC so was interested in options to fill in between leaving unit and flying out at 22:30. Apart from that was simply surprised about the lack of entry for First Class passengers but that simply reflected lack of knowledge on my part :)
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By akronflyer | May 30, 2018, 06:42 PM
A few years ago I presented my then QF silver card and said I wanted to buy a months membership to gain entry to the AA lounge ,The Lounge Dragon said to a colleague 'This man is trying to give us money''
She told me just go in and enjoy the Lounge , I couldn't believe it
It wasn't the only AA Lounge that let me in on that trip
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By Gazza129 | Jun 01, 2018, 05:56 PM
Have to agree with some comments above. We could only get into Virgin America lounges flying first but no one else without membership or in the case of AA they did would let us in with Amex cards

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By pgcnewyork | Jun 03, 2018, 02:06 PM
Platinum Amex used to get you into Admirals Clubs, but not for a couple of years now.
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