Qantas to fly Boeing 747 Sydney-Perth, Airbus A330 Perth-Singapore

Qantas to fly Boeing 747 Sydney-Perth, Airbus A330 Perth-Singapore

Qantas will fly its iconic Boeing 747 between Sydney and Perth from late July, while its double-daily Perth-Singapore Boeing 737 service will be replaced by an Airbus A330.

A Qantas spokesperson confirmed to Australian Business Traveller that the Perth-Singapore A330 schedule will start from July 22, and the jet chosen will feature the airline's highly-regarded Business Suite business class.

It's understood the A330 will remain on the roster until late October, although this could be extended closer to the date.

Qantas Boeing 747 for Sydney-Perth

Meanwhile, the iconic jumbo jet is getting a shot at domestic duties before it's retired from the Qantas fleet in 2020. The red-tailed Boeing 747s first joined the Qantas fleet in 1971, giving them an almost 50 year history with the Flying Kangaroo.

However, don't expect to see the Boeing 747 thundering coast-to-coast on a daily basis: Qantas says it'll operate only on select flights starting July 30.

Here's a snapshot of the first ten days of Boeing 747 flying between Sydney and Perth, as supplied to Australian Buisiness Traveller by Qantas.

As you can see, QF581, QF582, QF583 and QF568 will be the flights to watch if you're booking beyond August 9.

In the Boeing 747's business class, transcon travellers will most likely see lie-flat Skybed II seats arranged 2-3-2 in most of the business class cabin and 2-2 in both the nose and the upper deck.

Top-tier frequent flyers booked in economy class will be able to pre-select seats in the Boeing 747's premium economy cabin based on their status.

The airline previously swung the jumbo onto the same route in mid-2011 and again in 2012 as the 'transcontinental turf war' hotted up between Qantas ands Virgin Australia.

The airline says these schedule changes are being made "to support our pilot training requirements", and come in response to a reported shortage of Boeing 737 crew as pilots are being trained up for the Boeing 787 Dreamliners.

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48 Comments

  • hutch

    hutch

    2 Jul, 2018 01:11 pm

    Well, our friends in Perth will be happy.
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  • Brayden

    ThePerthTrav

    2 Jul, 2018 01:54 pm

    I Sure am happy
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  • HelenRQ

    HelenRQ

    3 Jul, 2018 12:37 pm

    Thank you,yes we are 👍
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  • dano282

    dano282

    2 Jul, 2018 01:17 pm

    Toooo bloody exciting this is!!
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  • Sanjay Prakash

    sanj747

    2 Jul, 2018 01:20 pm

    Win win for all including those wanting to fly to London with a stopover in Singapore and a 747 for the cross country traveller. Releasing the Sydney Perth A330 frees up the aircraft to go to SIN.
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  • aklrunway

    aklrunway

    2 Jul, 2018 01:25 pm

    So are both 737 flights being converted to A330 or both flights being switched out for one daily A330?
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  • Dave

    Grannular

    2 Jul, 2018 01:27 pm

    Two flights being replaced by one A330
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  • Traveller14

    Traveller14

    2 Jul, 2018 08:00 pm

    This must explain why the airline didn't announce this earlier, as by transferring passengers from two B738s into one A333, it can fill the latter.

    What happens to anyone unable to be accommodated (two B738s have more passenger seats than a single A333) ?
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  • Dave

    Grannular

    2 Jul, 2018 08:15 pm

    Assuming that 2x 737's would already be full 3 weeks out. Which I would find surprising. I also think it would be an A332, not an A333. It will be operated by the plane normally doing the Syd-Per-Syd run. If A333, they would need to send one over from the east, causing poor utilization on international routes.
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  • Dave

    Grannular

    2 Jul, 2018 01:32 pm

    Definitely keen to find out dates and flight numbers for these 747 flights. Seems like a good excuse to visit the family back in Perth. Fingers crossed there will be plenty award seats and snag a seat upstairs.
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  • David Flynn

    David

    2 Jul, 2018 06:40 pm

    Our article has now been updated with the first week-or-so's schedule, Grannular.
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  • henri9

    henri9

    2 Jul, 2018 06:44 pm

    Are you able to see which rego is/are being used?
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  • David Flynn

    David

    2 Jul, 2018 06:57 pm

    Don't have visibility on that, but curious as to why that matters..?
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  • henri9

    henri9

    2 Jul, 2018 07:17 pm

    You said in the article that the J product is skybed II, but some of the chat had suggested it would be VHOEB on this route. I guess you've drawn your conclusion re the product on the seatmap that is available for booking now.
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  • David Flynn

    David

    3 Jul, 2018 10:43 am

    There will be more than one 747 on the route, we're working from info supplied by QF.
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  • aniljak

    aniljak

    2 Jul, 2018 01:40 pm

    Why not fly both the 747 and A330 from Sydney via Perth to Singapore and return giving option of day and night flights on all routes with wide body aircraft?
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  • grov

    grov

    2 Jul, 2018 01:46 pm

    Wondering whether the flights will be timed to match the arrival/departures of the 787 from/to MEL into PER.
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  • Robert Eden

    reno

    2 Jul, 2018 01:59 pm

    Reduce flight capacity,and you fly the fuel guzzler.pay a higher fare that's great.

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  • Chris Chamberlin

    ChrisCh

    2 Jul, 2018 02:34 pm

    Reno: You've been warned about posting personal attacks and remarks about other users before, which have no place on this website, and were also previously given a final warning with a note that if you did so again, your ability to post comments would be withdrawn.

    As such, your post above has been edited to remove yet another personal remark, and your commenting privileges have now been temporarily suspended, to be restored during business hours on Thursday July 5.

    In the meantime, please familiarise yourself with AusBT's published Comment Policy, in particular: Don't attack others for their opinion: if you disagree, then make your case. But stay objective and stick to the topic.

    We trust you'll follow this rule more carefully after your return: you've had more than enough reminders now.
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  • Morgan Judd

    Mjudd

    2 Jul, 2018 02:26 pm

    Meanwhile Virgin is changing their aircraft to Perth to 737....Qantas is an absolute no brainer
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  • dlight

    dlight

    4 Jul, 2018 03:31 pm

    I recently flew to PER on a VA 737 and was totally underwhelmed. As a regular QAN flyer on the same route, I thought I'd try the competition. Believe me there was no competition between QAN and VA on east-west coast flights - check-in experience, lack of ife, wifi, extra $ for some of the food - so for me it's QAN every time. Flying on a 747 should be great fun.
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  • Miguel

    simiguelito47

    2 Jul, 2018 02:30 pm

    QF 568 is the overnighter ... am I the only one not keen about a backwards step in comfort for such a short red-eye?
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  • bl5965

    bl5965

    2 Jul, 2018 02:47 pm

    To be honest, I don't think you'd notice much difference in the experience of 747 vs A330 on QF568, in either class.
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  • Max Buller YT

    Max Buller YT

    2 Jul, 2018 02:44 pm

    How long will the 747 flights be going for? Because I would love to fly on the 747 for the first time and domestically would be a lot cheaper!
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  • GBRGB

    GBRGB

    2 Jul, 2018 02:47 pm

    Perth here we come, I promised my young son a trip on the 747 before they go and was looking at OS options but now we will head down to SYD and across to PER for a few days once the QF schedule is sorted.
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  • Sparra14

    Sparra14

    2 Jul, 2018 03:02 pm

    QF581 SY-PH is the B744, I am working in SY for 3 months so will give it a go before they disappear.
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  • MissBasset

    MissBasset

    2 Jul, 2018 03:23 pm

    I will wave to it zooming over ADL as I make my way to ADL airport to catch the ol' 737 to PER...…..
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  • Dave

    Grannular

    2 Jul, 2018 03:41 pm

    The 747 flights are bookable through the Qantas website. They are still showing as 737 or A330, however they have a shorter flight time. 4:45 for westbound and 3:55 eastbound. I have done a test booking and am able to select both upper and lower deck.
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  • Max Buller YT

    Max Buller YT

    2 Jul, 2018 03:50 pm

    How far in advance could you book?
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  • Dave

    Grannular

    2 Jul, 2018 03:55 pm

    I only tried 30th/31st July to test
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  • Nathan Catton

    airnz515

    3 Jul, 2018 07:15 am

    As far as I can see from the timetables, flights are in the system until 5 September. Hopefully they continue them beyond that date.
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  • Sparra14

    Sparra14

    2 Jul, 2018 03:47 pm

    The QF581s I looked at showed B744.
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  • Nick  Sydney 348

    Nick Sydney 2

    2 Jul, 2018 04:47 pm

    Thats a bit splendid. The Queen having a majestic farewell tour. Whilst she is very much old school, there is still that magic about flying on a 747. Last for me was on QF12 from JFK to LAX and onto a A380 which is a mighty fine craft butt the 747 really heralded the long haul age.
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  • Charles

    SteveCF

    2 Jul, 2018 04:59 pm

    Totally agree Nick, the 747 was way ahead of its time and was/is the undisputed queen of the skies. I hope Qantas find some more domestic duties for the 747 as it’s farwelled from our skies.
    A beautiful aircraft that I’ve always enjoyed flying.
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  • Nick  Sydney 348

    Nick Sydney 2

    4 Jul, 2018 03:12 pm

    There is just a unique 'feel' about the way the 747 turns and banks. Just feels different to the modern craft. Last trip we took off northbound from JFK and made this incredible turn right over Midtown NYC. So memorable.
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  • Morgan Judd

    Mjudd

    2 Jul, 2018 05:35 pm

    Hmmm...the times it is showing that the 747 will be operating on are horrific. Was hoping for QF 583, and QF 568
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  • Brett Thomas

    basby76

    2 Jul, 2018 06:19 pm

    I just hope the Daily Per-Sin flight stays at the 12pm time slot, I will be changing to a 2 weeks on 2 weeks off roster soon and will be utilising that flight to get me to Thailand, coming off nightshift that lunch time flight is perfect.
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  • jrfsp

    jrfsp

    2 Jul, 2018 07:05 pm

    So this isnt going to be -OEB as rumoured? as that is fitted with First in the nose
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  • mannej

    mannej

    2 Jul, 2018 10:40 pm

    QF don't see F on the 747 anymore, as OEB is the only bird with it left. It would make sense for it to operate the route.
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  • jkraid92

    jkraid92

    2 Jul, 2018 08:32 pm

    I don't know if Qantas read my thoughts or what, but this is quite a surprise since I'm a fan of the 747. My interest of flying has decreased over the last 9-10 years not only because of Qantas' decisions in 2011/2012 and the fact this aircraft will disappear in 2 years but also I hardly get a window seat on a big jet like the 747. The last I got a window seat on a 747 was in June 2004 as an 11 year old on my way to AKL. Since then, I've flown a 747-400 4 times and no window seat on any of them (wrong place at the wrong time). Flying on a 747 for the first time on my first day on a plane(2003) was an immersive experience and it got me interested in airplanes. However, seating next to the window on a big jet is more empowering and motivating IMHO. I don't know why but I just feel more relaxed and comfortable in that scenario. So maybe, this is my chance since I've never been to Perth but it must happen within 2 years.
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  • highflyer

    highflyer

    2 Jul, 2018 09:26 pm

    Am i correct to say that QF will be utilising at least 2 x 747s on some days as 582 and 583 arriving and departure times overlap?
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  • D Y

    ChickenorBeef

    2 Jul, 2018 11:13 pm

    “In the Boeing 747's business class, transcon travellers can look forward to lie-flat Skybed II seats arranged 2-3-2 in most of the business class cabin”.... said someone in 1997..... you make me laugh....
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  • potatograss

    potatograss

    3 Jul, 2018 02:27 pm

    Just like the good old days.
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  • Matt S

    Matt S

    4 Jul, 2018 03:23 pm

    Re: schedule- how will QF 583 dep Sydney at 19:45 when the incoming QF 582 is not slated to arrive until 20:25 on same day?
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  • Traveller14

    Traveller14

    4 Jul, 2018 03:32 pm

    Different aircraft. As David has stated above, there'll be more than one B744 on the route.
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  • Matt S

    Matt S

    4 Jul, 2018 03:34 pm

    Thanks Traveller14, I clearly missed that part about >1 aircraft making the rounds!
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  • Private Pilot

    Private Pilot

    4 Jul, 2018 04:38 pm

    Here's something a bit quaint for observant travellers on the last remaining 747s in the sky...I recently travelled to Jo'berg on QANTAS 747 (not very comfortable, by the way, when compared with the new techs such as A380, A350 etc etc)..but in a galley was a little permanent sign..'no smoking while preparing food'...
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  • John Shave

    johnshave

    4 Jul, 2018 08:26 pm

    Great to see QF using A330 Per-Sin. B737 is a horrible plane to do this trip in, whether business or econ. But A330 Per-Syd is definitely my preferred option, rather than B747. A330 business class far superior to B747 skybeds, and in econ A330 has 2 seats abreast on outside vs B747's 3 seats. Can't stand 3 seats abreast, that's why it's good QF is changing to A330 Per-Sin. Pity about Per-Syd though.

    I guess nostalgia wins out sometimes, even when the reality is different............
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