Philippine Airlines flies new business class to Sydney, Melbourne

Philippine Airlines flies new business class to Sydney, Melbourne

Philippine Airlines will introduce all-new business class and premium economy seats on flights to Sydney and Melbourne from mid-year.

The airline is upgrading eight of its Airbus A330 jets with a full complement of premium cabins as it chases the business and corporate travel market along with well-heeled holidaymakers.

The new business class represents a substantial improvement over the dated recliners of Philippine Airlines' current Airbus A340s, which will be replaced by the A330s on both the Sydney-Manila and Melbourne-Manila routes.

Philippine Airlines new Airbus A330 business class

The 18 business class seats at the pointy end of the A330s will provide lie-flat comfort and direct aisle access through a 1-2-1 layout, and are based on the same Thompson Vantage XL platform (below) as the Qantas Business Suite, albeit in a less customised form.

(Qantas also flies its Business Suite-equipped A330s between Sydney and Manila.)

Creature comforts of the Vantage XL design include an 18.5 inch video screen and ample personal and working space around each seat.

Further back sits a 24-seat premium economy cabin, with the seats (below) 19 inches wide and spaced 38 inches apart, and as business class will include AC and USB power sockets plus a 13.3 inch video display.

The remaining 267 economy seats are 17 inches wide with a 32 inch pitch and a 6 inch recline, with 10.1 inch screens and USB power outlets at each seat.

Sydney, Melbourne go all-A330

The thrice-weekly flights between Melbourne and Manila will shift to an upgraded A330s by July 15, 2017, a spokesperson for  Philippine Airlines told Australian Business Traveller.

The Sydney-Manila route will follow in August, with both the PR211/212 and PR213/214 flights switching to the refurb'd birds.

(Other A330 routes rolling out in the second half of this year include Honolulu, Singapore, Haneda, Tokyo/Narita and Osaka.)

Philippine Airlines is also eyeing non-stop Manila-Brisbane flights in 2018 once its new Airbus A321neo fleet arrives, removing the current Darwin stopover, and will also take delivery of six new Airbus A350-900 jets across 2018-2019 to expand its non-stop network with direct routes such as Manila to New York (via the Arctic region).

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31 Comments

  • Looking

    Looking

    30 Jan, 2017 09:26 pm

    Yeah this is one airline I would just not want to touch.
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  • Mick9

    Mick9

    31 Jan, 2017 07:28 pm

    Just wondering, it mentions the economy class seats are 17' wide, is that narrower than normal a330's.   I thought 17' was the tight size on 787's?
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  • Graeme Medley

    Grum217

    31 Jan, 2017 07:54 pm

    Would never ever travel with them again......bad experience.
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  • JJM

    JJM

    1 Feb, 2017 08:32 am

    Good news for regular MNL biz travellers - certainly an uptick from the aged A340's and the reasonably new, but very poorly fitted out A330's.
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  • S

    S

    1 Feb, 2017 09:49 am

    Would never again with these guys!
    Had the most ridiculous experience with PAL
    They gave me a free return flight as compensation and I was like... sorry... don't think so!
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  • JJM

    JJM

    1 Feb, 2017 10:24 am

    "S" - care to elaborate?
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  • S

    S

    2 Feb, 2017 01:44 pm

    Long story short, overbooked flight by around 60 people. Waited in the queue at MNL for 4 hours. Sent us all via HK to get home via partner airline. Got to HK, no ticket waiting for us etc etc.
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  • Mal

    Mal

    1 Feb, 2017 10:52 am

    Great timing, my work will take me to Manila every few months of the 2017-2018 financial year. Still would prefer Qantas for the lounge and points but if my company insists on a lower fare that'll probably be PAL, at least I'll still have a decent seat.
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  • Kieran M

    KieranM

    1 Feb, 2017 11:13 pm

    No thanks. This is an awful airline. 
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  • russell

    russell

    2 Feb, 2017 11:26 am

    I travel to Manila a lot and this still wont be enough to get me on PAL.
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  • eminere

    eminere

    2 Feb, 2017 12:40 pm

    Gosh PR really has a bad rep huh
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  • Dave

    Grannular

    3 Feb, 2017 09:14 am

    I don't see why you are all so negative. PAL are obviously trying to better their product and move forward. This is a positive step. I get that they are not most peoples first choice, but they have their place in the market.
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  • Kingsley11

    Kingsley11

    3 Feb, 2017 10:58 am

    Agree. At least they're trying to improve their product. A perfect  example where product and fleet improvements has worked well is Garuda
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  • mushmush

    mushmush

    3 Feb, 2017 03:47 pm

    I agree with most here, this airline has a long way to go yet. What is truly shocking is the lounge in Manila, resembled an office cubicle environment! 
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  • Graeme Medley

    Grum217

    3 Feb, 2017 05:58 pm

    Well they really have plenty of room for improvement & bettering their product. If there is a worse airline them I'm yet to fly them.
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  • Martin Haynes

    Martin Haynes

    4 Feb, 2017 04:03 pm

    A lot better than the A340 business class but I would still prefer to fly with Qantas, their seat will still be better than this "off the shelf" design and of course a much better lounge at Sydney. Just a shame we can't use the excellent CX lounge at Manila because it's in a different terminal. :(
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  • AgentGerko

    AgentGerko

    24 Feb, 2017 11:53 am

    Last time I flew with PAL I had a DC10 to Manila, followed by a BAC111 to Cebu followed by a HS748 to Bohol. The BAC111 flight at 4.00am  got airborne three times before it stayed airborne and the HS748 had wind whistling in through holes in the passenger door. What fun. Considering its an 8 hr flight to Manila, I'd definitely give their new J class a go, particularly as its on sale for under $1500 rt. Exceptional value for a flat bed cabin.
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  • Traveller14

    Traveller14

    20 Mar, 2017 09:23 pm

    This article requires correcting.  Between Manila and Melbourne, PR always uses its so-called high capacity A333s that in business class have a lie-flat 2-2-2 configuration.  In contrast, Manila - Sydney and back uses a mix of A333s and the dated A343s.

    The changed seat layout on the A333s will be an improvement.

    I don't find PR to be as bad as some above paint it.  Staff are quite good and meals in J are excellent.  In Y, they're nothing startling but not disastrous.
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  • Traveller14

    Traveller14

    21 Mar, 2017 09:15 pm

    Could the editor please correct the factual error in the article as I noted above almost 24 hours ago?
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  • David Glazebrook

    David_G

    23 Mar, 2017 12:11 pm

    I'm booked to travel in September and am looking forward to trying the new business class product.
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  • DAVID STEVENSON

    davistev

    13 Apr, 2017 11:38 am

    In the middle of my journey from Melbourne to Taiwan, PAL in Manila asked for my credit card that was used to book my ticket. Long story short, My wife purchased the ticket online and so I did not have her credit card on me. Manila refused to issue me my next boarding pass to TPE unless I showed them my card. Since I could not, I had to buy another ticket. But get this - "sorry no seats available on the TPE flight" after I grudgingly agreed to buy the last remaining sector. 

    I was pissed. I went over to Cebu Pacific and they were great. At least they are honest when they say they are a budget airline. PAL pretends to be a full service airline but with a budget airline mentality.
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  • Bill.P

    Bill.P

    1 Jun, 2017 03:59 pm

    Would never fly any other Airline to Philippines. PAL, has been always good with me also allowed me sligtly over the required baggage limit without charge.
    I would NEVER use QANTAS as that is one Airline that I would steer clear of.
    And I am also a frequent flyer to Philippines, I can assure you that I doubt that any Airline is fault free.
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  • DennisL

    DennisL

    3 Aug, 2017 11:25 pm

    Its now Aug 2017, does anyone know if PAL have already rolled out their new business class seats on A330 to SYD and MEL ?
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  • David Glazebrook

    David_G

    4 Aug, 2017 06:23 am

    ex Mel PAL flight reservations are showing the new business class now with the aircraft that were tagged for upgrade. ex SYD still has a lot of the older 343 aircraft and aren't showing the upgraded 333 in flight reservations until early September.
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  • Traveller14

    Traveller14

    18 Sep, 2017 12:05 pm

    I've been on the changed A333s of PR and they are great.

    Can AusBT please do a review of this by travelling on a MEL or SYD - MNL flight with the changed plane?
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  • Miguel

    simiguelito47

    12 Oct, 2017 12:38 pm

    Haters gonna hate, we were making comments like those above about Garuda ten years ago
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  • Traveller14

    Traveller14

    12 Oct, 2017 01:44 pm

    DennisL and David_G , the altered (and for the better) A333s now seem to be on every flight of PR209/210/211/212/213/214 i.e. all MNL - MEL and MNL - SYD and return flights.
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  • AgentGerko

    AgentGerko

    12 Oct, 2017 01:53 pm

    Might be an A330-300 most days but not always the same configuration. My bro flew MNL/SYD J class a few days ago and 24hrs before travel they swapped a 1x2x1 for a 2x2x2. He was most unimpressed.
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  • Traveller14

    Traveller14

    12 Oct, 2017 02:22 pm

    It's been very rare for the older, unsatisfactory configuration to be substituted to SYD and MEL for the past few weeks. This airline now has five refurbished aircraft carrying travellers so in theory even with maintenance requirements 99 per cent of the time it should be a 'new' A333.
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  • David Glazebrook

    David_G

    12 Oct, 2017 02:32 pm

    I recently flew SYD x/MNL HKG x/MNL SYD. All sectors were on the new config 1/2/1 J class. PR has caught up to QF A330 for seat functions though the final finish is fairly basic. I had seat 2K for all legs. I did find the footwells small and fairly confined. The entertainment screen is a large 18.5 inches which was great. The selection of entertainment was fairly limited and the number of latest movies low. Food was average, drinks range was quite good though the premium only entry level. (ie gin offered was Gordons) the crew was very polite and attentive.

    Lounges. In SYD PR use the SQ Silver Kris which is good. In MNL the Mahubay Lounge is in dire need of an update. More like a waiting room than a lounge. In HKG PR use Hong Kong VIP Lounge and is was excellent. A small menu of cooked to order dishes that were very tasty, a modest selection of quality drinks and several seating options of which I choose the chairmans reading seats that looked out across the airport at pilots level view.

    I managed to get these flights for $1165 inc taxes person and at that price represented exceptional value.

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  • AgentGerko

    AgentGerko

    12 Oct, 2017 02:33 pm

    It's not just PAL anyway. I'm flying to SYD/SIN in Dec on QF in a A330-200 with 2x2x2 angled seats. It's never good when they promote one configuration and you get stuck with the previous out-of-date one.
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21 Jul, 2018 12:13 pm

Which Qantas lounges can Air New Zealand Airpoints frequent flyer use?

Which Qantas lounges can Air New Zealand Airpoints frequent flyer use?

Air New Zealand's Airpoints frequent flyers will enjoy have access to Qantas Clubs around Australia under the newly-forged alliance between the two airlines.

As of October 28, 2018, Airpoints Elite and Gold members booked on a codeshare flight with Qantas will find the doors swing open for them at the two dozen Qantas Club lounges in Australia's capital cities and regional centres. They'll also be permitted to bring in one guest.

But it won't be as easy as flashing your shiny Airpoints card, as the following conditions apply:

  1. you have to be travelling on a domestic Qantas flight
  2. it has to be booked under the Air New Zealand codeshare (those flight numbers will be in the NZ7xxx range)
  3. and this must be booked as part of a trans-Tasman booking

This arrangement replaces Airpoints access to Virgin Australia lounges following the dramatic bust-up between the two former allies.

However, there appears to be no Qantas Club lounge access for Koru Club members, nor can AirNZ frequent flyers cool their heels in the more upmarket Qantas Business lounges.

The Qantas / Air New Zealand alliance covers selected flights on the domestic network of each airline, however trans-Tasman and other international flights are excluded from the arrangement.

Read more: Qantas, Air New Zealand alliance will take on Virgin Australia

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David Flynn is the editor of Australian Business Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis.
 

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  • henrus

    henrus

    20 Jul, 2018 05:31 pm

    Doesn't it seem a bit odd that Koru club won't get access (something that the VA deal provided) . I guess there will be no access for QF Club cardholders in NZ either?
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  • aviation

    aviation

    21 Jul, 2018 09:27 am

    Correct, it's reciprocal in that QF Club card holders can't use NZ lounges. The VA deal was very unique as they were the only partner lounges Koru members could access without actually flying Air NZ.
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  • Uqsthom6

    Uqsthom6

    21 Jul, 2018 08:05 am

    Looks like air nz ff get the raw end of the deal
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  • aviation

    aviation

    21 Jul, 2018 08:31 am

    Thanks for the article, however, there are a few errors.
    1. It's not really an alliance, but a straight domestic codeshare agreement. Alliance to me suggests coordination on pricing, schedules, etc, of which is there is none of.
    2. Some codeshare flights on Qantas are in the NZ1xxx range too (namely the triangle routes)
    3. The codeshare flight can be used for any international journey originating in Australia, not just trans-Tasman (i.e. you could fly CBR-SYD-AKL-LAX or MEL-SYD-RAR)
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21 Jul, 2018 12:13 pm

What you can expect from Cathay's new business class dining concept

What you can expect from Cathay's new business class dining concept

Cathay Pacific will roll out its new 'business class dining concept' this month, with the meal service taking a step closer to a first class experience.

Meals will be individually plated and delivered to passengers by hand rather than by trolley, as the airline adopts more personalised and upmarket approach.

Cathay also expects this will result in a "quieter and calmer cabin environment", especially on late night flights.

Passengers will have a choice between three appetisers and "up to six main course choices" on flights over ten hours in the initial launch of the service to the likes of Chicago (on July 30), London/Gatwick (in August) followed by Frankfurt, Manchester and Washington DC (September); Amsterdam, Paris and Johannesburg (October), Madrid, Brussels and Barcelona (November) and London/Heathrow (December). 

And, being very much on trend, light and healthy 'wellbeing options' feature in every main course.

On flights from Hong Kong the menu will be changed every month, with a quarterly menu refresh for flights to Hong Kong.

Fights from Hong Kong (but not, for now, the return leg) will also see a new range of Hong Kong Favourites inspired by local dishes, such as

  • Hong Kong char siu pork with egg noodles, seasoned soy sauce, spring onion and ginger (shown below)
  • Wok fried seafood in lobster soup with ginger, spring onion, crispy and steamed rice
  • Beef brisket with flat rice noodle soup
  • Mango with pomelo and sago

But before all that eatings starts, business class passengers will notice the new-look menus.

Printed as eight pages on quality paper, they not only detail the meals and drinks available on that flight but include foodie-friendly articles such as 'Anatomy of a Laksa' and feature a local chef revealing their favourite eateries both in Hong Kong and around thr world.

There will also be a breakfast menu card which passengers will complete before hitting the hay, so that they can wake to what the airline described as a "hotel room-service" experience.

However, these are set menus rather than allowing travellers to pick-and-mix from a wide selection of items.

In addition to what's described as 'traditional' Chinese and Western breakfasts, there's also a lighter Continental breakfast plus a minimalist Express breakfast of a piece of pastry and a drink, which can be served 60 minutes before landing for passengers who wish to maximise their sleep.

Refreshments will be revamped as a selection of 'most loved dishes' available throughout the flight as a snack between meals on services to North America and Europe, including the airline's signature burger and popular soup noodles. These will also appear on the main meal menu.

Next year will see Cathay's 'new business class dining concept' extend to medium-distance routes, with plans to include Sydney and Auckland in February 2019 and Melbourne, Brisbane, Cairns, Adelaide and Perth in May 2019.

David Flynn

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David Flynn is the editor of Australian Business Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis.
 

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  • Skipp

    Skipp

    20 Jul, 2018 12:48 pm

    Look forward to the new meal service in business class coming within the next 12 months - it will make a nice change.
    I just hope (for the future) that Cathay Pacific will stop serving the exact same economy class meals in "Premium" economy class.
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  • MissBasset

    MissBasset

    20 Jul, 2018 01:34 pm

    Why bother with the white linen tablecloth if they are serving it on a plastic cafeteria tray? The promo pictures show all set up to eat off the tray. Euww.. I will take it all off the tray and set it up like other airlines J class. FAIL for presentation, CX.
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  • mrj

    mrj

    20 Jul, 2018 02:42 pm

    I recently suggested to Cathay that their business classs food is amongst the worst of all airlines. Interestingly their response failed to mention this planned revamp.
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  • AADFW

    AADFW

    20 Jul, 2018 02:57 pm

    I'm really glad they're going back to classy, glossy paper stock for the menus versus the uncoated groundwood paper they switched to a few years back. Now if they would only bring back that trademark chocolate box at the end of the meal...
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  • David Flynn

    David

    20 Jul, 2018 03:25 pm

    I was on CX a few weeks back and the chocolates made an appearance on every flight...
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  • Manjit Sadhwani

    Manjit Sadhwani

    20 Jul, 2018 03:19 pm

    It's about time
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  • HKAus

    HKAus

    20 Jul, 2018 03:41 pm

    CX Catering is bar far the most outdated and leaves an overall cheap and poor guest experience of most International airliners. CX have unfortunately chosen over the last decade to reduce their overheads where guests can see and feel the difference. Personally after 5 years as a Diamond CX member I have moved to competitors; poor catering, moody crew members, consistently delayed flights (due to over use of planes with no margin for delays) and ridiculous pricing have enabled me to now enjoy such operators as KLM, Virgin Australia, Qantas & Lufthansa; all with an overall better "J"Class experience. Interestingly as a result of my change in travel I was dropped to Gold and this year even though I should have dropped another tier, they obviously are trying to get pax like myself back because they extended my gold status.
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  • Rkwm

    Rkwm

    20 Jul, 2018 04:39 pm

    It was taken CX far too long to make changes to the atrocious F&B that has annoyed their long term supporters . The plastic cafeteria tray certainly brings the enhancements down a few levels can’t, understsnd who approved this inclusion . Totally agree with HKAus, supported CX for over two decades but over the last two years the deterioration in service , punctuality and value has been palpable.


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  • Tony OBERON

    obi

    20 Jul, 2018 04:48 pm

    Looks marginally better - but CX are you seriously going to use a plastic tray? At least put a cloth on the tray - if for no other reasons than hygiene! I’m a germophobe and I cringe to see cutlery sitting on a plastic tray, which cannot be washed at the same high temps as crockery. Lysteria et al here we come.
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  • JOHN MEWETT

    mewettjohn

    21 Jul, 2018 11:33 am

    I think everyone who travels Cathay agrees that the dining experience had to be upgraded, this looks the goods.
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21 Jul, 2018 12:13 pm

 Cartier Santos: the original pilot's watch, reimagined

Cartier Santos: the original pilot's watch, reimagined

Very few watches can claim true originality, and the Cartier Santos is among those few.

The Santos made its debut way back in 1904 as a personal timepiece for aviation pioneer Alberto Santos-Dumont, making it both the first pilot’s watch and one of the earliest known men’s wristwatches.

The story

As we've previously detailed, the Santos was borne from a request by Brazilian flyer Santos-Dumont, who told his friend Louis Cartier – then a Parisian watchmaker – of the challenge of timing flights using the then-conventional pocket watch, as pilots needed to keep both hands on the aircraft controls.

In response, Cartier designed a large square-faced watch and fitted it to a strap so it could be worn on the wrist – quite a revolutionary concept at the time.

The first commercial Cartier Santos watches went on sale to the public in 1911 with solid gold cases and ultra-thin mechanical movements designed by French clockmaker Edmond Jaeger.

(In order to produce this movement for Cartier, Jaeger worked with Swiss movement manufacturer Jacques-David LeCoultre, a partnership that would lead to the birth of storied brand Jaeger-LeCoultre.)

The enduring design of the Cartier Santos was reimagined in the late 1970s as a luxury steel sports watch, later adding two-tone steel and gold and the now-iconic screwed bezel with exposed gold screws along the bracelet for a modern, industrial aesthetic.

The style

For 2018, Cartier has once again re-invented the Santos.

The distinctive screw-set bezel now tapers at both ends towards the bracelet to create an organic, integrated look.

The satin-brushed case features a wide mirror-polished bevel along its length, extending all the way to the gracefully curved crown guards at 3 o’clock. A square watch the Santos may be, but there’s hardly a sharp edge or straight line to be found.

The case has been slimmed dramatically from previous incarnations of the Santos, allowing this watch to disappear easily under a shirt cuff when needed.

The bracelet is fitted with a new 'QuickSwitch' system allowing for easy swapping with the included tan calfskin strap or Cartier’s alternative crocodile straps, providing some style versatility.

Adding or removing bracelet links has also been made easier with a new 'SmartLink' design which allows the wearer to expand the bracelet during a hot summer’s day without requiring a tool.

While the bezel, case and bracelet have all been modernised, the dial remains classic Cartier. With Roman numerals, a railroad minute-track and heat-blued hands, it’s hard to imagine a more traditional look.

The 2018 Cartier Santos can serve dress-watch and sports-watch duties equally well, and boasts a history that few timepieces can match.

The details

• In-house mechanical movement with automatic winding
• Seven-sided crown set with a faceted synthetic spinel
• Silvered opaline dial, blued-steel sword-shaped hands, sapphire crystal
• Water-resistant to 10 bar (approximately 100 metres)
• Medium version case width: 35.1 mm, thickness: 8.83 mm
• Large version case width: 39.8 mm, thickness: 9.08 mm
• Pricing from A$8,750 for the Cartier Santos Medium in steel, to A$52,500 for the Cartier Santos Large in solid pink gold with matching pink gold bracelet. For stockists, visit www.au.cartier.com.

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21 Jul, 2018 12:13 pm

Finnair flicks the switch on free WiFi for European flights

Finnair flicks the switch on free WiFi for European flights

Finnair will launch inflight Internet on its European flights this week, with travellers able to enjoy the high-speed satellite service free of charge during a two-month trial period running through to the end of September.

The Oneworld airline has already outfitted six of its single-aisle Airbus jets with technology provided through partner Viasat, which also provided the backbone for Qantas' Australia-wide WiFi system.

By the end of northern summer some 20 aircraft will be upgraded, with Finnair's entire single-aisle Airbus fleet slated for WiFi by mid-2019.

The system will be available on a gate-to-gate basis, so passengers won't even need to wait for their jet to reach level flight – which will maximise time online for many of Finnair's relatively short European hops.

However, parts of some European routes will present black spots to the satellite network, including above the Bay of Biscay and the North Sea, while some restrictions also apply over Latvia, Lithuania, parts of Belarus and Russia.

Over the two-month testing period Finnair intends to "gather information on system functionality and feedback on the overall customer experience."

"In entering the passenger testing phase, we’ll be gaining the critical insights needed to further optimise our service to ensure Finnair customers get a unique experience built around their needs, interests and usage behaviours," explains Viasat vice-president Don Buchman.

The airline has yet to reveal what pricing it will charge for its sky-high WiFi once the trial period ends, although frequent flyers will no doubt hope that some sort of monthly pass is available as an alternative to paying on a per-flight basis.

Finnair already offers WiFi on its long-range 'intercontinental' jets, with the first hour free for business class and Finnair Plus Gold members, then €3 (A$4.70) for three hours or €20 (A$31) for the entire flight. Finnair Plus Platinum frequent flyers are provided with free Internet access for the whole flight.

David Flynn

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David Flynn is the editor of Australian Business Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis.
 

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  • eight10man

    eight10man

    20 Jul, 2018 06:19 pm

    Not sure how you can have black spots when using satellite internet.. especially when those black spots happen to be above the sea. Could it be this system is actually and ground-to-ground system maybe?
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  • readosunnycoast

    readosunnycoast

    20 Jul, 2018 10:35 pm

    Just flew BKK>>>HEL, A350 with wifi. Couldnt get a connection of any sort. Just kept message, don’t close the browser. I do hope it gets better for the next lot of passengers
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21 Jul, 2018 12:13 pm

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