You want lie-flat business class beds in a Boeing 737? Done.

You want lie-flat business class beds in a Boeing 737? Done.

Is this the next wave of business class for single-aisle jets like the Boeing 737, which are the domestic and short-range workhorse of airlines around the world?

Forget about seats that merely recline: these ones fold down into a fully flat bed that's on par with your best superjumbo-grade business class.

Middle-eastern airline Flydubai takes the medal for putting these seats into the pointy end of its new Boeing 737 MAX  jets.

There are ten seats in the business class cabin, ranked in two rows of a 2-2 layout and between those a row of solo 'throne'-style seats.

Based on Thompson Aero's popular Vantage seat and styled by JPA Design – whose most recent work was on Singapore Airlines' new Airbus A380 business class – the clean lines and efficient use of space brings a relative degree of luxe to the otherwise low-cost state-owned airline.

If nothing else, these premium pews show the degree of 'do-ability' for Virgin Australia's promised Boeing 737 transcontinental business class, which the airline intends to launch in the second half of 2018 as an alternative to its regular Airbus A330 services on east-west routes.

David Flynn

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David Flynn is the editor of Australian Business Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis.
 

13 Comments

  • Brayden

    ThePerthTrav

    12 Nov, 2017 11:52 pm

    Honestly, if Virgin Australia did this, they’d knock Qantas out of first place, then go further
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  • alenb

    alenb

    13 Nov, 2017 05:06 pm

    can i just say i hate 737s

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  • John Phelan

    John Phelan

    13 Nov, 2017 12:26 am

    Ridiculous for the short sectors flown by the 737.
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  • Jack Scascighini

    scas

    13 Nov, 2017 12:56 am

    For golden triangle routes you are 100% correct. However if they only ran these on trans-con then they’ll make sense. Considering VA’s push to expand into Asia, I can envisage a future where they pull all the A330’s off domestic routes and the 737’s will do it all.
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  • nichojo

    nichojo

    13 Nov, 2017 09:23 am

    Agreed. On the 737-capable hops (<6hrs) there is never going to be a way to arrive "fresh and ready" when you end up with around 4 hours of sleep. Though, on a vanity route an AU transcon where the usefulness is overshadowed by the ability to just say you have lay-flats, cramming in a 2-2 product makes sense density-wise.
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  • Tlar

    Tlar

    13 Nov, 2017 01:27 am

    Yes i would, The Trans-con 737 from Darwin are quite long 3.3hrs - 4.5hrs, A nice Snooze after lunch or breakfast(redeye flight) would make you feel fresh and ready for work.

    I flew red eye MH 737-800 from KUL to DWN, It was better to sleep in 3 seats of Y then a recliner J Seat. That was a 5 hours flight sometime.
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  • traveller99

    traveller99

    14 Nov, 2017 03:12 am

    Exactly -- just a snooze. Being able to lie down flat on a bed and snooze for an hour is an amazing thing. It's not the same snoozing upright. A flat bed on a plane doesn't need to be for an overnight flight.
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  • Alan Arratoon

    alan-aa1981

    15 Nov, 2017 03:05 pm

    Finally! Someone said it! I've done close to 250 sectors between Darwin and Melbourne and flights used to fly overnight, but now simply fly late at night and this would be a welcome addition. Simply having it on Perth flights only just doesn't bode well.
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  • Graham BLAMEX

    BLAMEX

    13 Nov, 2017 09:16 am

    While QF leads the way in domestic J class especially when it comes to lounges and service if VA was to introduce this product they would win me!
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  • Dan Mascione

    Dan22

    14 Nov, 2017 09:54 am

    Thanks for your opinion but since when did Qantas lead best business class? Didn’t Virgin just win Australia’s best Business class? Agree with QF lounges being superior, but I believe their is no overriding factor in the seats that makes one better than the other. Being in my 20s I prefer the younger service offered on VA and appearance of their FAs better groomed then Qantas / more professional IMO. Having flown QF 787 to Mel and VA 777 to LA just last week, I can say I prefer Virgin - the QF over shoulder seatbelt dug into my back which was annoying. Not a fan of Qantas pick your desert off the tray or the option of a small or big bowl of soup for one of your entree/mains. First world problems but hey this is what the forums about!
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  • reeves35

    reeves35

    13 Nov, 2017 09:31 am

    You could see VA using this sort of layout for a sub-fleet of their 737s that would be concentrated on longer flights over 3 hours. I don't think these seats make sense on triangle services.

    I suspect VA would go for 6 J class seats rather than 10 but VA would know what sort of demand they see on longer 737 services and whether using the greater amount of real estate 10 seats will demand will pay its way.

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  • parishiltons

    parishiltons

    13 Nov, 2017 10:45 am

    Bring it on!
    With the increasing use of 737s on regional flights, particularly where overnight I will pick an airline that has these over recliners every time.
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  • parishiltons

    parishiltons

    13 Nov, 2017 10:49 am

    And the leg room when in seat mode looks way superior to current 737 J offerings. Another reason to applaud.
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  • downdata

    downdata

    13 Nov, 2017 11:25 am

    What about the seat width though? The 737 is not the widest of all narrow bodies and from the photos these looks incredibly narrow, which might make a shorter journey less comfortable than the normal “regional” biz class seats.
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  • reeves35

    reeves35

    13 Nov, 2017 11:30 am

    Remember that in sleep mode, it is likely that the armrest retracts so the available space is actually more than it appears.
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  • Stan Klan

    Stan Klan

    13 Nov, 2017 11:55 am

    I recently flew JFK to LAX on American Airlines flagship service. They had flat beds in First on a narrow body jet.
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  • romaau

    romaau

    13 Nov, 2017 02:22 pm

    Yes but that was most likely an A321 which is wider than a 737. :)
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  • reeves35

    reeves35

    13 Nov, 2017 02:51 pm

    An AA A321 is either 2 abreast in First or 4 abreast in Business with all seats angled in reverse herringbone style. It is a different layout from what is being proposed here which is closer to the layout of Jet Blue's Mint seating.
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  • Christian Ryan

    aussie-flyer

    13 Nov, 2017 01:45 pm

    These are being deployed on their longer flights which are about 6 hours. Places such a Prague & Bangkok
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  • Alex_upgrade

    alex_upgrade77

    13 Nov, 2017 06:04 pm

    Sorry, which airline are you talking about?
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  • eminere

    eminere

    14 Nov, 2017 09:33 am

    FlyDubai, the airline referenced in the article.
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  • Russjking

    Russjking

    13 Nov, 2017 11:11 pm

    BA have 32 fully flat seats on their LCY (London City) to JFK A318s. Very niche market, and expensive to operate.
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  • Matt J

    MattJelonek

    15 Nov, 2017 06:24 am

    Do it VA... I just had a red eye on the 737 and Loathe it.
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  • Matthew T

    Matthew T

    15 Nov, 2017 08:54 am

    Hi David,

    Do you know what is the total seat count on the flydubai 737 max? Just wondering if the lie-flat is taking up any more space and if it is at the expense of a smaller economy cabin or they are just fitting the economy cabin with a true low cost seat pitch.

    As a discussion point for those who are very excited about the lie-flat business cabin: What do you think about the lie-flat 737 business class if it is at the expense of a tighter economy cabin? I presume not all business travelers are allowed (by their company) to travel in business cabins on every trip.
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  • pan129953

    pan129953

    15 Nov, 2017 09:23 am

    Qatar airways does a great job with Business class lie flat seats in its A320s
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