Emirates CEO plans Airbus A380s for Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide

Emirates CEO plans Airbus A380s for Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide

Emirates hopes to upgrade all its flights to Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide to Airbus A380 jets on the back of the airline's recent US$16 billion order for an additional 36 superjumbos on top of its current 101-strong fleet.

Boeing 777s currently darting between each of those three cities and Dubai would be replaced by the flagship A380s, providing a substantial boost in capacity.

"There will come a time when people will say ‘now what do we do? I’ve got no more (airport) slots'," Sir Tim Clark told Fairfax Media, which also reported Clark saying Emirates "would likely replace its remaining 777s flying into Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide with A380s following its recent order."

Emirates already has three daily A380 flights from Sydney, which Clark praised as a "goldmine" market, and one each out of Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth.

However, the Gulf carrier has also pulled out its A380s off trans-Tasman flights between Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane to Auckland citing competition on that add-on leg.

Clark considers Qantas' imminent move to abandon Dubai as its hub for London flights and move back to Singapore as a "strategic" decision by Qantas CEO Alan Joyce.

"Alan was starting to realise that the partnership was so strong, with our metal doing so much in the west for him, that it was perhaps a good time to rethink their strategy."

However, the impact of Qantas' shift towards ultra-long range non-stop flights – including direct routes to London and New York from 2022 – remains to be seen.

"Will that affect what we do out of Australia into those cities, because he’ll be going non-stop and we’ll have an intermediate point (our hub) is anybody’s guess," Clark said.

"If the market grows, there’s plenty for all. If it flatlines or goes south, all of us have to go into a reset mode."

Read more: Qantas' globe-spanning plans could change alliance, says Emirates boss

David Flynn
David Flynn is the editor of Australian Business Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis.
 

36 comments

  • reeves35

    reeves35

    31 Jan, 2018 11:00 am

    What???.... no Canberra!!! (just joking)
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  • simon drakeley

    drsimon50

    31 Jan, 2018 11:03 am

    is adelaide a380 ready? - ie the runway? the terminal certainly isnt - but would be great for us!
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  • reeves35

    reeves35

    31 Jan, 2018 11:29 am

    I believe the runway is capable from a loading point of view. The A380 is quite efficient from a runway and taxiway loading point of view. The only potential issue from a runway point of view may be runway width due to the spacing of the outboard engines.

    The terminal would be capable but could not do multi door entry currently but i have done single door boarding in DXB on an A380 and provided it is organised it works quite well.
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  • Brassy

    Brassy

    31 Jan, 2018 03:00 pm

    I wondered the same thing drsimon. From memory, a380 needs at least 3000m and Adl is 3100m long. They'd need a new air bridge arrangement though and some other upgrades.
    Maybe we'd finally get beer on tap in The Lounge.....?
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  • Spizz

    Spizz

    31 Jan, 2018 05:50 pm

    The Emirates A380 and Etihad A380 and Qantas A380 have all landed and taken off from Adelaide airport due to Diversions. Check Youtube for the clips. So I wouldn't believe it would be an issue.
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  • sgb

    sgb

    31 Jan, 2018 11:16 am

    What a colossus Airline Emirates is. My favourite. What a bold decision to order all those new A380's. Keep up the style. Could they resume Trans Tasman from melbourne to auckland, PLEASE.
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  • Sanjay Prakash

    sanj747

    31 Jan, 2018 11:24 am

    With a 100 of them and more to come it is a no brainer. Interesting to see how much load an 380 out of Adelaide will get. David, Emirates has 3 x A380s out of Sydney (2 non stop and 1 via BKK) with a 4th to start in March which will be a non stop.
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  • josephjohn8484

    josephjohn8484

    31 Jan, 2018 11:27 am

    adelaides arrivals hall - more specifically, its baggage/customs hall, cant cope with a jetstar a320 let alone an a380. i dont think the jet bridges are a380 capable either
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  • simon drakeley

    drsimon50

    31 Jan, 2018 11:44 am

    i love adelaide airport for its tiny quirkiness - but really cant see how it will cope with a ?full a380 - i hope they can but that remains to be seen - the 777 is nearly always full when i am on it!
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  • amac

    amac

    2 Feb, 2018 10:22 am

    Mate - I'd say the way out is the least of the worries. Have you seen the security line on any average weekday morning!?
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  • smit0847

    smit0847

    31 Jan, 2018 11:33 am

    Would be amazed if there was demand for a daily A380 flight to ADL vs a second daily 77W via somewhere IN Asia (BKK is the obvious choice as there are already direct flights on other carriers to SIN, KUL, DPS and HKG)
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  • simon drakeley

    drsimon50

    31 Jan, 2018 11:43 am

    i like the sound of that!
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  • Lachlan Burnet

    Lachlan72

    31 Jan, 2018 11:46 am

    Just to clarify as the article mentions 2 flights, David... EK has 3 daily flights ex-SYD daily: 2 Direct and 1 via BKK. (EK 413, 415 and 419)
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  • David Flynn

    David

    31 Jan, 2018 11:48 am

    Ah, of course – had my 'Dubai' hat on – thanks for the pick-up, Lachlan!
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  • Caversham04

    Caversham04

    31 Jan, 2018 01:13 pm

    Good to hear - I'd consider ADL-LHR on their A380; no way on earth will I do it at the moment on their 777 in 3-4-3 seating in economy
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  • hwle

    hwle

    31 Jan, 2018 01:17 pm

    I thought Emirates had 3x daily A380 flights from Melbourne as of later this year? 1x via Singapore and 2x direct?
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  • MelbFlyer

    MelbFlyer

    31 Jan, 2018 01:47 pm

    Correct - at the moment both EK406/407 (direct) and EK404/405 (via Singapore) are A380s with EK408/409 moving to an A380 from March 25th when Qantas pulls the A380 via DXB and starts the Dreamliner via Perth.
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  • PERflyer

    PERflyer

    31 Jan, 2018 01:44 pm

    EK had cut the 2x daily Perth A380’s back down to 1x380 & 1x77W and with Qatar upguaging to daily 380 to Perth soon that’s some mega capacity from EK again. EY also rumoured to be looking to upguage from 789 to 77W. With QF direct to LHR starting soon that’s some serious capacity to Europe from Perth.

    Interesting to note mining is seriously cranking up again over here in the West. Media hasn’t got a hold of it yet but working in the industry I can see it.
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  • Aubrey

    AAdams

    31 Jan, 2018 08:06 pm

    "EK had cut the 2x daily Perth A380’s back down to 1x380 & 1x77W"?

    PERflyer, I think that you mean:

    EK cut the 3x daily Perth B777s to 1x380 & 1x77W

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  • PERflyer

    PERflyer

    31 Jan, 2018 08:48 pm

    Not really no I was only talking about the second A380 being dropped and now potential reinstated. The 3rd daily flight was never a 380 or relevant to this story.
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  • Aubrey

    AAdams

    1 Feb, 2018 03:07 am

    I wasn't aware that EK ever operated 2xA380 daily to PER. When was this? The 3rd B777 flight was only ever temporary until the A380 gate was completed at which time 2xB777 flights were combined into one A380 flight. So IMO it is relevant to EK A380 ops into PER.
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  • PERflyer

    PERflyer

    1 Feb, 2018 07:16 am

    Hi Aubrey,

    You are incorrect. I can’t help that you weren’t aware that the morning 424/425 was a 380 making 2 x daily 380’s. This was downguaged back to a 77W after a few months due to low demand.

    422/423 was never a 380 and the flight no longer exists so not relevant as it will be 424/425 going back to 380 if at all.

    Cheers

    PERflyer
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  • Aubrey

    AAdams

    1 Feb, 2018 05:56 pm

    Thanks for the passive-aggressive responses, serves me right for seeking clarification from an expert I guess. :-)
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  • Morgan Judd

    Mjudd

    31 Jan, 2018 01:56 pm

    Yeah, why is the article headline 'CEO plans A380's from Brisbane, Perth, and Adelaide', when 2 out of 3 already receive A380s?
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  • David Flynn

    David

    1 Feb, 2018 06:25 pm

    Because as the first paragraph says, "Emirates hopes to upgrade all its flights to Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide to Airbus A380 jets" (italics mine, for emphasis). And second par: "Boeing 777s currently darting between each of those three cities and Dubai would be replaced by the flagship A380s..."
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  • Tancho

    Tancho

    31 Jan, 2018 02:04 pm

    I think ADL would struggle processing arrivals. SmartGates work well for passport clearance but the bottleneck is customs and quarantine.
    Depends also on the arrival time of the flight. A lot of the arrivals from Asia land between 7-9am. When there is an overlap between 2 flights (usually MAS and SQ), that tiny area becomes a nightmare. You land up stepping over each other just trying to get out. Also one conveyor belt (which has broken down in the past).
    What about lounge access? Would Emirates be looking to put in their own lounge? Not sure the Qantas lounge could handle the additional load as it is a shared lounge for international and domestic and affiliates. Quite busy at certain times. While it is an okay lounge, it certainly isn't to the standard of an Emirates International lounge.
    I welcome the competition though, good to see more options open up.
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  • ivalaine

    ivalaine

    29 Jun, 2018 11:07 am

    are you kidding me? I'd take adelaide customs and immigration over any other city any day. At least you rarely have a connecting flight to catch so there's no pressure. I've never taken more than 30 minutes at adelaide (one exception). Customs is far more relaxed than melb or syd or brisbane. And you only ever get one plane coming in at a time due to only one international gate. So no issues of getting immigration to see a football oval space full of people ahead of you because several big planes arrived at once.

    Also, Adelaide doesn't do A380s. They tested it and declared there wasn't enough buffer space for any issues in landings. They will do emergency landings/diversions, but not regular flights. Would be very surprised to see them change their minds now... we havent had that many diversions of A380s to ADL to justify changing that....
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  • Lesley Reilly

    lesleydr

    31 Jan, 2018 03:13 pm

    Looking forward to this if they fly from Adelaide. Flew Emirates to Europe in 2016 in a 777. Never again. Shouldn't be a problem with congestion as current flight arrives and leaves late evening.
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  • JOHN

    jgb59

    31 Jan, 2018 03:25 pm

    I think it is a good move given that ADL often has good points availability in business class which is much more desirable on an A380 v 777
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  • GBRGB

    GBRGB

    31 Jan, 2018 03:34 pm

    Their overall strategy that restrictive slots at airports will make the A380 prove the right choice long term is one that is hard to argue with, if slots are restricted then 500 pax per slot vs 250 or 300 on the smaller planes, it’s hard to see volume not coming out on top in the long run.
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  • Patrick Bruer

    Aviation Buff

    31 Jan, 2018 04:39 pm

    This is very good for inbound and outbound Adelaide passengers! The Emirates A380 is an infinitely more comfortable aircraft to fly (in economy) than their B777ER. This is based on having flown on both of these Emirates aircraft types many times in the last five years. Adelaide Airport Ltd will almost certainly make the required changes to enable multiple-level boarding, because it is good future business for them. No doubt the Australian Government will also make appropriate changes for border force control, as well, to enable the smooth traffic flow of passengers.
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  • Marian Somerville

    Alexandmarian

    31 Jan, 2018 05:35 pm

    I live in Scotland and fly out of Glasgow. Are there any thoughts for the A380 taking over from the 777.
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  • Polbathic

    Polbathic

    31 Jan, 2018 05:53 pm

    The Adelaide runway certainly can handle a fully laden A380, we have had them on test and diverted flights. The international gates are marked up for A380s, but do indeed only have single airbridges. Airlines with the right attitude and with direct flights to the right destinations have been rewarded with loyalty from ADL pax. Maybe EK could consider ADL-BKK-(DXB-Europe(?)) thus filling a need for direct flights to Thailand.
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  • aniljak

    aniljak

    1 Feb, 2018 08:26 am

    Adelaide can take A380s on a diversion but they then fly on to an Australian city. Can a fully loaded a380 depart Adelaide for Dubai on extremely hot days?
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  • Robert Heath

    Sema4beach

    1 Feb, 2018 04:42 pm

    If the A380 Is on the Cards for Adelaide! Easy! Simple, The Airport Authority Has to Lift its Game and Facilitate it With New Infrastructure, Ain't Rocket Science! .... Also Change the Ridiculous Curfew! Nothing Personal Just Business! @Emirates
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  • visionaire

    visionaire

    20 Feb, 2018 10:14 pm

    Does anyone know when this might happen? I've got a BNE-DXB flight in J in Sep currently on a 777-200 and I'm wondering if it's worth trying to change it to the A380 flight, or wait and hope I might be lucky and either get a refurbished 777 or it might change to an A380 anyway?
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