Delta One business class suites coming to Sydney-Los Angeles in 2019

Delta One business class suites coming to Sydney-Los Angeles in 2019

Delta Air Lines will launch its private business class Delta One suites onto the Sydney-Los Angeles route next year, raising the bar for premium travel on the popular and competitive trans-Pacific route.

The airline has confirmed that one of its long-range Boeing 777-200LR jets, which are being updated to feature the enclosed business class suites with sliding privacy doors, will begin loping daily between Sydney and LAX in 2019.

Specifically when that is, we don't know – in a statement issued to the media, Delta would only say that "exact schedule details will be published at a later date" – although as Australian Business Traveller previously noted, a temporary update to Delta's schedule earlier this year showed the Delta One suites making their Sydney debut from March 31.

Whenever the Delta One suites do appear, travellers will notice they number just 28 Delta One suites on the revamped Boeing 777 compared to 37 seats in the current business class cabin, due to Delta's decision to add a sizeable new Premium Select premium economy cabin.

Once the Delta One suites begin flying between Sydney and Los Angeles, the reduced number of business class seats – nearly a 25% reduction – will make it more challenging for travellers to snare a Delta One suite based on redeeming their frequent flyer miles as well as reduced availability of upgrades.

First introduced in 2017 on its Airbus A350 fleet, the suites boast sliding privacy doors akin to what passengers would expect from first class.

Behind those doors, it's a more familiar scene – a modified version of the same Vantage XL seat (from Irish seat maker Thompson Aero) as used by Qantas for its Business Suite seen on the Airbus A330s, Boeing 787s and from next year the Airbus A380 superjumbos.

On the plus side, this means you get a well-appointed seat with a decent amount of personal space plus a lie-flat bed.

The downside, as reported by some passengers on Delta's A350s, is that the presence of that door can make the suite feel rather enclosed.

The paired Delta One suites in the middle of the business class cabin have a divider which can be pushed down if you're travelling with a partner or colleague.

Behind the Delta One business class cabin, the Boeing 777s feature 48 of the airline's new Premium Select premium economy seats ranked in a 2-4-2 configuration.

These effectively replace today's Comfort+ section, which offers the standard economy seat with a few extra inches of legroom.

David Flynn
David Flynn is the editor of Australian Business Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis.
 

37 comments

  • Bob Burgess

    Bob Burgess

    14 May, 2018 12:34 pm

    Nice idea but they look a bit tight for my liking and I am a solid but average sized bloke. I'd probably have the doors open except when I am sleeping, which is when you do like the privacy so you're less likely to be disturbed by 'foot traffic' etc.
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  • Traveller14

    Traveller14

    15 May, 2018 07:55 pm

    Unless the table can extend closer to him, he looks as if he'd find it hard to reach the food. Is this so?
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  • mb68

    mb68

    14 May, 2018 01:35 pm

    I cant say the fellow in that first pic looks that comfortable . His left arm seems to me jammed in. I,m really surprised airlines are not opting for a much wider seat . I realize there are some wider options by a couple of inches out there in the market place however it still surprises me .
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  • xtfer

    xtfer

    14 May, 2018 01:42 pm

    A wider seat requires a wider booth, which means insufficient room to put another bed in without sleeping on an angle (ala Singapore Airlines), or adopting a herringbone (which has its own limitations).
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  • lind26

    lind26

    15 May, 2018 07:38 pm

    I agree, I can't work out why with all that space seats can't be wider.
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  • nichojo

    nichojo

    14 May, 2018 01:45 pm

    @david - shall we call this "mini first" as well?
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  • David Flynn

    David

    14 May, 2018 04:15 pm

    Hahaha, I think Qantas has copyright on using that term to describe business class! :P
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  • Simulate Aero

    simulate

    1 Aug, 2018 03:40 pm

    @nichojo - some here would just call it a private "crib"!
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  • mb68

    mb68

    14 May, 2018 01:51 pm

    Xtfer , I understand your point totally, Just seems that the Delta product has ample room for a wider seat, if it were to be placed in a more central position , instead of positioned on one side. (Thanks for your reply.)
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  • lind26

    lind26

    15 May, 2018 07:40 pm

    Agree, that's what I thought too, why pushed to one side?
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  • JBL

    JBL

    14 May, 2018 01:55 pm

    Weren't Delta going to put the A350 on SYD-LAX
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  • David Flynn

    David

    14 May, 2018 04:14 pm

    Sydney was only ever 'under consideration' for Delta's A350s as part of its broader Asia-Pacific focus [see https://www.ausbt.com.au/delta-eyes-sydney-for-new-airbus-a350-and-its-business-class-suites]
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  • Bruce Seitanides

    Bruce777

    14 May, 2018 02:39 pm

    If you read onemileatatime ‘s review, on the surface the product is nice but is really small and cramped, and does not compare to the space of Qsuite and Qatar’s soft product.
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  • Stefan Kane

    DrSK

    14 May, 2018 09:15 pm

    It will be interesting to see how this J product compares with that of the VA 777 on TPAC flights. I know this is of limited relevance to much of this site's readership, but it is noteworthy (and surprising) that DL has elected to keep Y at 9 abreast - a significant point of difference with the UA and AA 777s.
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  • Traveller14

    Traveller14

    15 May, 2018 07:57 pm

    Suspect it's of much relevance to many, as self funded businessmen and women, and lots of others, often travel in economy. Some may not wish to admit it.
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  • TZB88

    TZB88

    31 Jul, 2018 01:14 pm

    UA and AA operate Dreamliners on SYD-LAX nowadays.
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  • cross40

    cross40

    14 May, 2018 11:31 pm

    All well and good. Sprucing up the cabin with the latest equipment DOES NOT improve service. US airlines have no idea how to treat Premium passengers. I would fly Chinese airlines before getting on a US airline.

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  • Traveller14

    Traveller14

    15 May, 2018 07:59 pm

    In economy class also, US airlines don't seem to have a great reputation either (although Virgin America did.) However it's ages since I have travelled on UA.
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  • Eli

    Eli

    1 Aug, 2018 04:42 am

    Im sorry but that is not 100% true. I'm a Brit that lives in the US and whereas the food sucks on American carriers, I find the vast majority of US FA's to be pleasant. They do not fawn over you and act like Geisha girls, but they get it done. Yes, they could clear the tables a bit quicker but overall they are NOT as bad as Aussies make them out to be.

    What I notice on this site, many people speak of the US carriers from years past. They have improved alot. I also find that QF is still highly praised when the reality is that was also from the same era. I hear nothing but ok to lukewarm comments from people who fly QF J class. My own experience on a QF flight was FA's that were Aussie nice, but overall not really into it.

    Virgin Australia seems to be 100% thumbs up from everyone.

    Live in the now and not the past.
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  • Cheyne Jonstone

    cheynejonstone

    1 Aug, 2018 11:13 am

    Want good service from FA's on a US airline? It's easy - be polite to them! American's are unbelievably rude to service staff and I have always found that if I use my manners (like I always do) by saying please and thank you for everything they treat you very well!
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  • Joe

    Joe

    15 May, 2018 01:08 pm

    Like BA wouldn't travel that far with DL AA UA for free. They have no idea. It's a glorified bus trip.
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  • lind26

    lind26

    15 May, 2018 07:43 pm

    I think the only way to get good service on an American airline is to introduce tipping!!!
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  • mickeyg

    mickeyg

    15 May, 2018 08:05 pm

    I would like to see them keep a couple of rows of Comfort+.
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  • john hauser

    talkscheap

    16 May, 2018 06:31 pm

    I have flown this Delta One seat in a window seat on LA to NY to LA and its a bit tight and the Delta service is pretty average and the food was unrecognizable and I didnt actually eat it . I cant imagine why you would fly this from Oz to LA when the Virgin Business cabin, service and food is so far ahead its not funny. I wont be giving it a try, my internal USA flight was underwhelming enough
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  • JOHN MEWETT

    mewettjohn

    17 May, 2018 11:25 am

    I agree with Joe (15th May).
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  • Flying High

    Flying High

    31 Jul, 2018 08:18 am

    Delta really should have chosen someone with narrower shoulders than that guy in the first pic - he doesn't really fit into a business class seat!
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  • reeves35

    reeves35

    31 Jul, 2018 08:48 am

    This probably highlights the weakness of staggered J class seats compared with reverse herringbone. In staggered, the seat width is limited and you end up with a wider table than really necessary beside you housing the legs of the person behind.

    This limitation is less with reverse herringbone as the seat width can be adjusted depending how far off centre-line the seats are placed. Of course, this means the side table is smaller which is probably not a big deal to most people, and a tapered footwell which may be an issue for some. Moving off-centre-line does have some safety implications as VA discovered which they solved with seatbelt airbags.
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  • Robert Eden

    reno

    31 Jul, 2018 10:02 am

    The usual US carrier bashing on this site.pitty they all provide better product an service than Qantas.
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  • Yvan J Drake

    MRYJDrake

    31 Jul, 2018 11:47 am

    I must be blind, I don't see any Bashing, just review..
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  • TZB88

    TZB88

    31 Jul, 2018 01:23 pm

    I think a lot of the negative attitude towards US carriers is from old experiences rather than recent. Also, international vs domestic flying with the US carriers is apples and oranges. From what I see these days, it is usually the US airport experience (immigration, security) that puts people in a negative frame of mind BEFORE they even get on the plane. A lot of the major US airports have improved in this regard though too.
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  • TZB88

    TZB88

    31 Jul, 2018 01:18 pm

    I wonder what DLs corporate customers think of the downsized J class? 28 seats ain't many - impact on supply/demand/price?
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  • aggie57

    aggie57

    31 Jul, 2018 02:43 pm

    I agree re the endless US carrier bashing. There are some weaknesses in their operations for sure, and I for one do avoid United whenever possible, but they successfully move a lot of people every day across a huge network. A smile and a cheerful hello goes a long way, be it from a passenger or crew.
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  • Eli

    Eli

    31 Jul, 2018 03:40 pm

    These pics were taken from the A350 which has a narrower cabin. People have complained about the tiny width. The 777 should be a tiny bit better.
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  • Gazza129

    Gazza129

    1 Aug, 2018 03:31 pm

    I wonder how the reduction in seat numbers will affect pricing? Just like the Dreamliner, less seats, always full, charge more.......
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  • john hauser

    talkscheap

    1 Aug, 2018 06:03 pm

    I have flown this product Transcontinental in the US and it is cramped and not top of the class for comfort. Factor in the very variable Delta service and the food experience on Delta and its never going to be my first choice. I will take VA "The Business" every time, it is streets ahead
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  • Rav

    Rav

    3 Aug, 2018 05:01 pm

    Re US airline bashing :I have flown Frontier in the US and was as good as any budget airline I have flown here or in Europe. I have also been made to fly United from NY to LA to connect to an AirNZ flight home to Melb. I would not give you 2 cents for the United experience, Discounting the 5 hr delay with a broken something, the staff were bored, the seats ok, service slow and meagre, their fault we are 5 hrs behind when we fly into LA with needing to connect to a partner airline, T1, after being told we would be escorted to T5 to make sure we would make our flight (NY), in LA they pointed and told to walk to T5 that way. Although incensed I asked that they notify AirNZ that we were on the way. I was with my aged mother who would not have been able to walk the distance after being on the go for 17hrs. LAX staff got mum a w/c and we managed to make the flight, Staff at LAX good, United crap, They did not talk to AirNZ who had no idea we were coming and had been held up for another issue. The stress and anguish manifested itself in a panic attack and she spent most of the flight to Aukland on oxygen. AirNZ brilliant. I wrote to them and asked them why would such a quality airline associate with United. Sept '16, not too far in the past I suspect.
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  • Rav

    Rav

    3 Aug, 2018 05:08 pm

    I was speaking to a US billionaire who had just flown to the Gold Coast for a conference and he flew Delta so I asked about the service on the flight from LA, his response was a lukewarm OK, after 4 days I knew OK was they did their "jobs" but nothing more.
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