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One small point, David - the New York Times most certainly DOES have comment voting. Underneath submitted posts, users will notice the following: xx REPLIES, xx RECOMMEND, SHARE and FLAG.
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Given that the current 'vote' line (along with Edit, Flag, Thanks etc) is a 'reserved' line, perhaps the better way to evaluate these comment-less marks is to have both an up vote and a separate down vote? That wouldn't take up appreciably more space. It would just be an additional 'counter' - and a useful one IMHO.
I've often watched a particular topic / post (sometimes somewhat controversial) vacillate between positive and negative (or vv). Having both counts would at least give some level of indication of support vs criticism of a particular post.
People's reason for voting varies all over the place - sometimes, it because the original poster asks a simple question that is dismissed because the answer could be found with a quick Google / Bing search, sometimes it is because of the subject (company xx bashing, for instance), other times it is because of the content or view expressed .. and in a few cases, it can simply be malicious.
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One small point, David - the New York Times most certainly DOES have comment voting. Underneath submitted posts, users will notice the following: xx REPLIES, xx RECOMMEND, SHARE and FLAG.
To be accurate, only one of those is any form of voting, that being 'Recommend', which puts the comment into the Reader's Picks section (an interesting idea which works well when you have massive amounts of comments) - but even so it's not voting in the up/down sense which is immediately and directly visible to everybody.
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Probably the best response in this thread so far. Everyone (if they have an opinion) should explain their reasoning - hence "discussion forum" and not just like/ dislike comments. Let's put more effort into our responses:
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One small point, David - the New York Times most certainly DOES have comment voting. Underneath submitted posts, users will notice the following: xx REPLIES, xx RECOMMEND, SHARE and FLAG.
To be accurate, only one of those is any form of voting, that being 'Recommend', which puts the comment into the Reader's Picks section (an interesting idea which works well when you have massive amounts of comments) - but even so it's not voting in the up/down sense which is immediately and directly visible to everybody.
OK, I am going to be a little pedantic here, David :-) ..
To be accurate - and 'fair', you made a blanket comment that the NYT does NOT have comment voting. Clearly, it does - whether or not 'Up/Down' voting is catered for. I did not suggest that it offers both - as is clearly shown in the format view that I referenced. Whilst the 'RECOMMEND' field is somewhat akin to the SMH field of 'RESPECT' (ie: an UP vote only), that is still a comment vote - whichever way you look at it. The REPLIES (an auto-generated count), SHARE and FLAG options are only mentioned as the contents of the protected fields on the reserved line. There is no suggestion that these are 'forms of voting'.
I do, however, agree that the NYT implementation is an interesting way of adding limited value. As referenced in my post directly below the one where I took issue with your comment, I flagged my preference for both an UP and DOWN vote. A good example of this is the original POLL posted by the OP, which while overwhelmingly in favour of the RETAIN option, actually shows how many are in favour of the 'Ditch' option. A far more balanced view of the topic for all readers - despite the overall preference (66%) for the RETAIN option. As said, having both actually gives some idea of how readers feel from both perspectives - without having to have embedded Polls (which is also of value in many instances)..
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I disagreed with, and downvoted your comment, GBRGB.
Ok :)
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