First Time First Class Flyer

By themanfromoz | Jun 08, 2017, 12:47 PM
Hi all,
I have booked first class with Qantas on Emirates A380 SYD - AKL and, being my first time in both first class and on a codeshare flight I was after some advice.  I do know I get access to the Qantas First Lounge at Sydney airport.
As I booked through QF will they call me the day before to potentially book a spa treatment?
Any suggestions to maximise my short flight time?
Can I check-in early through the Qantas First check-in or only through Emirates (which means 3 hours prior to take-off).

Thanks :)
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By alansu | Jun 08, 2017, 01:38 PM
Because the flight is still operated by EK, the QF First Host service won't be available as that service is only available to F passengers on QF operated flights.

You'll have to check in with Emirates rather than the QF First check-in because again, it's EK who is operating the flight. However there's usually no queue at the EK F check in and it's relatively close to the Express Path entry.

For the actual flight I'd recommend trying out the shower and the bar if it's your first time in F, you can ask the shower attendant to prepare the shower for you whilst you're having your dessert to save a bit of time to enjoy other aspects of the flight.
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By jventham | Jun 08, 2017, 06:47 PM
QF1st Class lounge at SYD is actually outsourced and operated by a hotel chain. and not very well, I might add. 
my daughter was hired by them recently as the 'Qantas 1st class Lounge Concierge' yet ended up being a plate runner in F+B again. 
which was the very thing she was trying to get away from, after years of working at 6 star resorts. 
fake.
go with the genuine airlines NOT QF.
they suck
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By markpk | Jun 08, 2017, 07:11 PM
QF1st Class lounge at SYD is actually outsourced and operated by a hotel chain. and not very well, I might add. 
my daughter was hired by them recently as the 'Qantas 1st class Lounge Concierge' yet ended up being a plate runner in F+B again. 
which was the very thing she was trying to get away from, after years of working at 6 star resorts. 
fake.
go with the genuine airlines NOT QF.
they suck

So I take it from your comment you haven't actually experienced the Qantas International First Class Lounge? 

As someone who has frequented the lounge many times a year since it opened and seen the transition to Sofitel management I disagree with your comments. Sofitel run a very good operation there on behalf of Qantas, as they do at LAX. 

I can't speak to your daughters experience with Sofitel but if its a HR or expectation management issue with on site staff I'm not sure why you feel the need to jump in here and trash Qantas? 
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By Andrew Barkery | Jun 09, 2017, 01:12 AM
OP, when are you flying SYD - AKL.
The reason I ask, is that in a few months, there won't be a SYD - AKL EK 380 anymore.
If you are flying soon, good, but if you are flying after Jul/Aug/Sep, you might find yourself relegated to the QF 330 in J, or have to reroute via MEL or BNE to AKL, or go SYD - CHC with EK F, and then JQ NZd CHC - AKL.
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By themanfromoz | Jun 09, 2017, 11:00 AM
OP, when are you flying SYD - AKL.
The reason I ask, is that in a few months, there won't be a SYD - AKL EK 380 anymore.
If you are flying soon, good, but if you are flying after Jul/Aug/Sep, you might find yourself relegated to the QF 330 in J, or have to reroute via MEL or BNE to AKL, or go SYD - CHC with EK F, and then JQ NZd CHC - AKL.


I am booked for Tue 4 July so am definitely on the A380.  Thanks.
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By themanfromoz | Jun 09, 2017, 11:01 AM
Because the flight is still operated by EK, the QF First Host service won't be available as that service is only available to F passengers on QF operated flights.

You'll have to check in with Emirates rather than the QF First check-in because again, it's EK who is operating the flight. However there's usually no queue at the EK F check in and it's relatively close to the Express Path entry.

For the actual flight I'd recommend trying out the shower and the bar if it's your first time in F, you can ask the shower attendant to prepare the shower for you whilst you're having your dessert to save a bit of time to enjoy other aspects of the flight.


Many thanks for that.  I was wondering about the timing of the shower.
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By Andrew Barkery | Jun 09, 2017, 01:41 PM
The QF SYDi F lounge is one of the best, I have done the EK SYD combo J and F lounge too, spend a bit less time in the QF SYDi F lounge, so you can also get some time in the EK SYD lounge too.
I have done them both, also have done the QF SYDi J lounge, the F is the better than that, you do get good views.
Its quite large inside the secure part of SYDi airport and the EK lounge is closer to the gate, so give it some time.
I believe the QF SYDi F lounge opens at 6am, the airport's immi and security opens about 4.30am or so.
If you live in SYD, I would aim to leave home by Uber at 3am, gives you time to get to SYD airport, and then to get through immi and security.
If you don't live in SYD, and have the option, I would if I were you stay the night at the Rydges Sydney Airport, I have done it, right across from the int terminal.
Sometimes the Express path bunting will still lead you to the general immi line, smartgate is good, easy to use.
You drop off your OPC (outgoing pax card) into a clear lidded box these days.
You put your photo page of passport down onto plate glass, no need to push it in too deep, look slightly to the right, you hear a short beep, and the gate opens.
They don't stamp passports anymore, entering NZ is just light leaving Aust, immi wise.  No small paper ticket on entry to NZ anymore (which Aust still has on entry).
You just show NZ IPC (incoming pax card) at the downstairs customs zone, they ask a few questions, might xray your bags, or not, and then you are free onto the open zone.
I like the AKL Skybus, a bit pricey though, (granted you might have someone to pick you up).
I have also done EK AKL lounge, its like the SYD one, good food, serve yourself grog, shows, large bank of computers in an alcove.
Enjoy the trip.
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By loyaltolex | Jun 09, 2017, 03:44 PM
You will enjoy EK F on SYD - AKL - but be aware that they do not provide the same service level as they do on other sectors (i.e.DXB BCN) where the wine list and food offerings are definitely better.

As a frequent traveler on the NZ route I wish you good luck going into AKL. It is almost as slow as entry to the US. It has appallingly slow clearance through the Ministry of Ag and Fish (or whatever they are called this week) inspection. It is always under staffed, AKL airport really need to get its act together.

However make the best of the flight - EK dropping that route (SYD - AKL - SYD) is a real shame. Code sharing QF is a joke.  Really don't understand why they did it - they always seem to have high loading on the 380.  Maybe there real reason is that EK's AKL facilitates cant handle the pax that a 380 delivers.


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By obanpointer | Jun 10, 2017, 04:09 PM
I agree f lounge is excellent. Forget the spa unless on QF flight in f. I've never been able to access when on EK. On board try to board first and then proactively request your preferred shower time. Seat 2a is my preferred. On wine list middle wine ie number 3 of 5 is usually the special and often a better bet than the others. 2 months ago they were serving Astralis at over $500 retail!! Paradis cognac is great and they will serve it to you at the bar if u ask!

Enjoy !
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By themanfromoz | Jun 10, 2017, 08:06 PM
Thanks everyone for the advice.  Greatly appreciated.

I guess my time in either lounge will be restricted by only  being able to check-in 3 hours before departure even in first class.

Shame since 'online checkin' really doesn't mean much when travelling o/s.

BTW 2A was my choice as well :)

Last edited by themanfromoz at Jun 10, 2017, 08.07 PM.
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By Donovan301 | Jun 12, 2017, 07:06 PM
Hey , Enjoy the hel out of your trip.

I need a trip home soon, but not soon enough to finally enjoy the cheap F deals that were around.

Incase you didn't know, you have one definitely Jealous person vicariously enjoying your trip ;-)
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By Richard Brown | Jun 13, 2017, 10:04 AM
Passed through Auckland Airport the other week and immigration was a breeze with electronic gates for those passports which can be electronically read. Baggage delivery prompt and customers bearable, even with having to have all incoming baggage x-rayed. If time is not of the essence too, Auckland duty free booze is both cheap and generous in its allowances, especially for spirits. It also saves you lugging it onto the plane. No wash bags or limo offered by EK on this route and on a flight two weeks ago in business class, the wine list was very poor. The crew had also each been given iPhones/pods, which they used to both look things up and take food orders. This actually appeared to slow the service down somewhat and make it less personal. Their knowledge of the wines was not great either. The bar at the back is definitely worth a visit, though lacks the premium variety of booze found in the somewhat soulless bar at the front of first class. 
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By drsimon50 | Jun 13, 2017, 10:51 AM
I agree f lounge is excellent. Forget the spa unless on QF flight in f. I've never been able to access when on EK. On board try to board first and then proactively request your preferred shower time. Seat 2a is my preferred. On wine list middle wine ie number 3 of 5 is usually the special and often a better bet than the others. 2 months ago they were serving Astralis at over $500 retail!! Paradis cognac is great and they will serve it to you at the bar if u ask!

Enjoy !
I loved the astralis when i was in first 1month ago - but always go for the chivas myself!
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