Qantas Boeing 737 business class toilet 'invasion' by economy passengers

By gjspectre | Mar 01, 2019, 10:07 PM
Of late on 737 business class flights there has been an increasing number of economy passengers strolling through business class and using the toilet. On my last flight to Adelaide a clearly drunk passenger did this three times, with absolutely no resistance from the crew. I'm not particularly fussed, however perhaps their announcement at the start isn't enough? I've commented before that Virgin Australia with their white rope deters this effectively.
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By Neilwoods | Mar 01, 2019, 10:21 PM
First World problems, hey ????
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By Mjudd | Mar 01, 2019, 10:27 PM
In a 737 there is only 3 toilets...not a big deal if an economy passenger uses the business toilet.
Last edited by ChrisCh at Mar 04, 2019, 10.18 AM.
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By gjspectre | Mar 01, 2019, 10:27 PM
Neil, the point is, Qantas announce pre-flight it's for business only, but don't do anything about it, Virgin mention it and enforce it. I'm an avid fan of Qantas, I'm simply highlighting an easy way to fix the issue :)
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By Joe | Mar 01, 2019, 10:37 PM
Get them back where they paid for I say. Qantas doesn't have single class service aircraft. They charge extra for convenience and people pay for it with points and/or money. I really don't see the argument its ok. It's like the apologists for Qantas who pay 16K for Qantas First and blindly accept their business class unsophisticated F product which does not equate the to super premium fare paid.
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By russell | Mar 01, 2019, 10:47 PM
Gjspectre, get over yourself. In a 737 there is only 3 toilets...not a big deal if an economy passenger uses the business toilet.
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So you don’t agree that people should get what they pay for....and believe that those who don’t pay should get it?
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By GBRGB | Mar 01, 2019, 10:54 PM
Even worse is when they queue in the aisle waiting to use the toilet, it’s something the staff could easily address and tell them to go down the back.
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By dddale | Mar 02, 2019, 12:00 AM
My observation has been some keen observers wait until the cabin crew are busy or absent up front and then make their move. Personally, while I do sit in business class regularly on the 737, it’s not something that bothers me. I look at as when you got to go, then you’ve got to go.

Let’s not forget too that Qantas changed their 737 toilets about three years ago so they’d be ‘slimline’ and could increase the capacity to 168 seats. So more people needing facilities... the same facilities.
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By Neilwoods | Mar 02, 2019, 02:38 AM
It's a toilet, for God's sake. Can't have the plebs using up all the gold covered dunny roll.....
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By hutch | Mar 02, 2019, 05:00 AM
Gjspectre, get over yourself. In a 737 there is only 3 toilets...not a big deal if an economy passenger uses the business toilet.
Last edited by Mjudd at Mar 01, 2019, 10.31 PM.

So you don’t agree that people should get what they pay for....and believe that those who don’t pay should get it?

It's a toilet, for God's sake. Can't have the plebs using up all the gold covered dunny roll.....

It is a toilet... But one positive of flying business, is it being less likely to have to wait or queue to visit the loo (Particularly on longer flights). Plus having less disturbance via foot traffic. Not the biggest deal in the world of course, but something which may annoy an airlines premium passengers

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By Stephen D | Mar 02, 2019, 06:04 AM
Which is why I fly Virgin. No one crosses the white rope!
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By jsf | Mar 02, 2019, 09:20 AM
Could just put a rope like Virgin does
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By jsf | Mar 02, 2019, 09:21 AM
The front toilet has better products.
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By New Mint | Mar 02, 2019, 11:06 AM
Which is why I fly Virgin. No one crosses the white rope!

Not true. I fly Virgin domestic business all the time and have noticed people moving the white rope and going to the front loo. While it doesn’t really bother me I think it should be policed properly. On some occasions I use points to upgrade or use my 4 “free” platinum upgrades, but mostly I pay for the privilege of sitting up front which means I’m paying anywhere up to 10 times more than the basic fare in economy. Hasn’t happened to me yet but I wouldn’t like to be busting to go and have to wait for an economy passenger to finish using the business loo! It doesn’t happen on international flights so I don’t see why domestic should be any different!
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By worldwanderer | Mar 02, 2019, 01:29 PM
Australian culture is generally egalitarian in nature and understand some of the responses here.

However, QF could quickly resolve the discontent and grumbling by either delivering on the implied promise or not making the promise at all.

"Rules" are rules and if the crew are ignoring them, that's not really acceptable
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By banana0692 | Mar 02, 2019, 02:59 PM
For those who are saying its just a toilet get over it, you clearly have never paid for business class before and maybe you don't see the benefit or want to pay which is ok. Business class is usually 4-8x more than economy and I push my budget to afford it for the listed benefits. One of the listed benefits is a toilet reserved for business class. If they can't / won't enforce it don't list is as a benefit.

One time that annoyed me a lot, I was actually sleeping and one of the Economy passengers waiting for the toilet bumped me and woke me up. I flew Business class as I needed the rest that day and to be woken up by someone who wasn't even supposed to be there was frustrating.

Sometimes when I've seen Economy passengers coming for the toilet i've told them to go away. Usually it works, but I shouldn't have to be the one to do that.

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