Flying with a baby in Qantas First Class

By ChrisB | Oct 07, 2018, 12:55 PM
I know this is a heated topic but I’m going to go there.

I fly an extraordinary amount between Aus & US, always in First. To give you an idea, I more than double P1 every year....

I have yet to ever see an infant in the bassinet seat in 5A. Maybe I’ve been lucky over the years.

My wife and I just had our first child, and we will now be crossing to the dark side, and bringing our little girl onboard. She’ll be 6 weeks old on her first flight.

Interestingly a P1 team member even made a comment just recently that babies shouldn’t be allowed in the F cabin. She didn’t have any idea of our planned trip, and I sympathise with her comment - to a degree.

I’m expecting the on board Qantas crew are going to be exceptional and helpful, as they always are with children generally.

Has anyone else done this, and did you feel any hatred thrown your way from other PAX?

Any sensible suggestions welcome 😀
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By StuParr | Oct 07, 2018, 02:11 PM
First of all, congratulations. You both must be really happy.

We have flown business class regularly with our child (family O/S) since he was 5 months old and haven't had a problem. There is the odd fierce look of how dare you bring a child on board but nothing else. So I can't see why F should be any different. You are a paying passenger so you do what you have to do. Crew have been top notch on all flights and bent over backwards to help us. One CSM took him for a walk so we could finish our food and another PAX next to us did the same thing.

I believe that you should be able to bring your children where ever you are flying. I am, however cognisant of people's comfort and try my best to ensure that we don't interrupt the other PAX. We have spent lots of time in the galley when we had trouble settling our son. We, by staying calm and relaxed, makes sure our son is and at 3 years is very happy to fly and not caused any issues thus far (touch wood).

Given your daughter is six weeks old, she will sleep most of the way anyway. At take off and landing make sure she is feeding, it will help with her ears. The most important time is landing for that in our experience. So stay calm and enjoy it and realise that most wish you well.

Have a great trip. You have just as much right to be there as anyone else.
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By David | Oct 07, 2018, 04:06 PM
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By David | Oct 07, 2018, 04:16 PM
Chris: I don't have kids, so don't have any advice for keeping your young'un calmed during the flight, but I will say that I believe you guys have as much right to be in any cabin as any other traveller.

Sure, I get annoyed when a baby is screaming during a flight, but I rationalise it away because (a) the wee kid can't help it, he/she is responding to things beyond their control such as pressure, noise/vibration, tiredness; (b) I'm sure the parents are not enjoying it either; (c) this is why the Good Lord invented noise-cancelling heaphones and playlists!

In fact there have been times in the past that parents have boarded business class with a kid and I've churlishly thought to myself "Oh, here we go" – then the kid turns out to be wonderfully behaved (better than some adult passengers!), self-sufficient, got their own little routine down pat, and the parents also work with the kid rather than just let them run riot – and at the end of such a flight I'll compliment the parents on their kid being so well-behaved, which I know makes them feel a lot better. Hell, sometimes I will even compliment the kid (or at least engage is casual chat such as ask if they enjoyed the flight etc), and those who know me will appreciate this is well outside my norm!

So, it's great that you guys seem to be thinking ahead about how this might impact other passengers and I'm sure others here will offer thoughts on how to make the trip easier on your infant so as well as other passengers, and I hope you have a fantastic trip :)

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By reno | Oct 07, 2018, 04:33 PM
I pay the premiem you need to keep out of my cabin
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By JTG | Oct 07, 2018, 05:08 PM
I fly with my 4 year old regularly in business class and believe he has just as much right to be there as any other business class passenger. Has there been the odd flight where he has been less than perfect, Yes. But similarly there has been the odd flight where the service has not been up to scratch, there has been the odd flight where adult passengers have behaved inappropriately, there has been the odd flight where the turbulence was so bad it has ruined the flight.

These episodes are all part of flying. There have been many overnight flights where I have not got as good a sleep as I would like for one of the above reasons. If it is vital that you are well rested before an important meeting, make sure you plan and prepare well and fly out a day or two early
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By Brassy | Oct 07, 2018, 05:20 PM
We’re 24 months ahead of you. Young Miss B has flown both econ and business since 3 months of age. Some trips are fantastic, other trips she’s a right p.i.t.a. Crying helps the ears pop, as does breastfeeding. Mrs B found breastfeeding much easier in business than in economy but the cabin crews have varied from brilliant (Jetstar economy) to mediocre (VA business).
Never had problems with other passengers but responses range from playing with Miss to just ignoring her.
We’ve never found the bassinets much help, but can’t comment on first class.
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By aggie57 | Oct 07, 2018, 06:17 PM
Can’t say I’ve ever seen a baby in F either, but we did fly LA-Melb a few weeks back in business, row 11 on the 380, and had a small rather noisy small child in 11F. So the forward cabin normally full of frequent flyers. We were fine with it, ear plugs sort out any issues, as were most others. My wife mentioned she saw one person get a little annoyed but I didn’t notice. As you say the cabin crew were great with it. I wouldn’t worry,
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By stompsy | Oct 07, 2018, 06:32 PM
I flew QF F Class in 5A. Our daughter was 8 months old. It was a dream. The "Chanel bassinet" as the FA's call it, said that it was used by Kate Middleton's little boy a few weeks prior.

The crew were amazing... I was traveling on my own.... Now admittedly, I was travelling on a staff travel ticket so perhaps the FA's were nicer to me because of it, but it was awesome. Our daughter slept a good 6 hours, and then; because there's plenty of room, it was really easy to keep her occupied in other ways - cuddles, peek-a-boo etc. Take a bottle of something for take off and landing as their ears can struggle to 'pop'.

And perhaps give 'reno' the middle finger ;-) You've paid for the privilege to be there too. Perhaps he/she can downgrade to J class ;)
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By djtech | Oct 07, 2018, 06:33 PM
As long as you guys have a ticket, you are allowed to have a baby onboard. Most would be very understanding if the baby were to cry and most would ignore the crying. One could argue that its not an issue as Qantas provides noise cancelling headphones to F passengers and nonetheless Qantas crew would be very accomodating and professional and can definitely provide you with assistance in calming your baby.
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By Steve987 | Oct 07, 2018, 06:41 PM
I have experienced many more irritating adults than irritating children in business, pe and economy. Go for it and have a great flight!
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By Metoo | Oct 07, 2018, 06:43 PM
I haven't seen babies in First. I've had more crying from fellow passengers then from babies in Business. I recall one lady who insisted to the crew that no one could talk around her once the lights had been lowered. She didn't win that crying contest. I think most passengers will cope with some crying (which is usually take off and landing) to a point. If a baby cries for hours straight then sure there is a problem. I would order more drinks and one for the baby. And earplugs.
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By ChrisB | Oct 07, 2018, 06:51 PM
Thanks to you all for your suggestions and reassurance. Your comments have restored my faith in humanity and QF passengers (to the most part 😝)
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By ChrisCh | Oct 07, 2018, 07:53 PM
I pay the premiem you need to keep out of my cabin

I'm sure if you'd booked out the entire cabin to make it 'yours' as you suggest (that is, booking all 14 first class suites on the aircraft, not just one seat), that'd be a pretty fair request... ;)
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By Clancy | Oct 07, 2018, 07:57 PM
Once upon a time (ago), possibly 18 years or more, we flew SYD-PER in Bus with Ansett (remember then), awesome... Son had a bassinet at the front of the plane and looked back at us with the look of 'this is as far down the back of the bus as I ever want to travel...'!!! Have a great flight, as a family.
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By PERflyer | Oct 07, 2018, 09:40 PM
Agree with most in here don’t over think it. You pay the money for the seats your entitled to bring a child in.
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