QF new service MEL~SIN

By jianga | Nov 29, 2017, 12:00 PM
Just heard at a tourism industry conference that QF has committed to add a 3rd daily service on the MEL ~ SIN route in 2018. Anyone has more insider news? I hope it will be an overnight MEL~SIN and then daytime SIN~MEL, this will give us options to do daytime/overnight return flights on both directions.
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By Mightyreds | Nov 29, 2017, 12:34 PM
This could be true as I have also heard there has been discussions of a second daily flight out of BNE in 2018, which would make sense considering the amount of traffic that will connect to QF1 via Singapore from March. The current QF51 does not provide for a good connection at all (6 hour layover).
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By mviy | Nov 29, 2017, 01:09 PM
So one A380 and two A330 services? That would be a lot of capacity.
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By Himeno | Nov 29, 2017, 03:41 PM
Which conference and who said this?

6 odd years ago, they used to run 2 A330s on SIN-PER. one day, one night.

Though, one has to wonder where they would get another A330 from to do another MEL-SIN. They already have to use them for 14 routes into Asia/HNL (MEL/BNE-NRT/SIN/HKG, SYD-BKK/SIN/HNL/PVG/PEK/CGK/MNL/KIX), plus the added A330 flying to NZ, plus the peak BNE/SYD/MEL triangle and PER transcon routes.
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By jianga | Nov 29, 2017, 06:44 PM
Which conference and who said this?

6 odd years ago, they used to run 2 A330s on SIN-PER. one day, one night.

Though, one has to wonder where they would get another A330 from to do another MEL-SIN. They already have to use them for 14 routes into Asia/HNL (MEL/BNE-NRT/SIN/HKG, SYD-BKK/SIN/HNL/PVG/PEK/CGK/MNL/KIX), plus the added A330 flying to NZ, plus the peak BNE/SYD/MEL triangle and PER transcon routes.

It was a Victorian international tourism conference. The in-market tourism manager said QF has committed (though not confirmed) to add a new service onto the MEL-SIN route next year. Maybe they'll pull off more A330s from Perth schedule, or even use a A380 when more 787s join the fleet.
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By Lala295 | Nov 30, 2017, 10:07 PM
Which conference and who said this?

6 odd years ago, they used to run 2 A330s on SIN-PER. one day, one night.

Though, one has to wonder where they would get another A330 from to do another MEL-SIN. They already have to use them for 14 routes into Asia/HNL (MEL/BNE-NRT/SIN/HKG, SYD-BKK/SIN/HNL/PVG/PEK/CGK/MNL/KIX), plus the added A330 flying to NZ, plus the peak BNE/SYD/MEL triangle and PER transcon routes.

It was a Victorian international tourism conference. The in-market tourism manager said QF has committed (though not confirmed) to add a new service onto the MEL-SIN route next year. Maybe they'll pull off more A330s from Perth schedule, or even use a A380 when more 787s join the fleet.

I can't see QF putting another A380 on the route - remember they are staring MEL-SIN A380 flights next March. I struggle to see this happening, I would have though China to better compete with VA if anything at all
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By Himeno | Dec 01, 2017, 03:18 PM
I agree. I don't see QF adding a 3rd MEL-SIN flight. There are currently 10 weekly flights on the route (daily QF35/36 3 weekly QF37/38) for 280J/2430Y seats weekly (10x A332).

From late March, QF35/36 becomes A380 and QF37/38 becomes daily, for 98F/644J/245W/4298Y weekly seats.
Assuming they were to find a 'spare' A330 (likely pulling from domestic flights), they are more likely to open a new route into Asia from SYD, such as ICN, KUL or TPE, or open a new MEL flight to somewhere already served from SYD, such as BKK, PEK or PVG.
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By aturnbull | Dec 03, 2017, 08:58 PM
Could they be referring to the new 380 flight? Combined with the EK flight that gives Qantas 3 daily ex MEL and can market it like that. I would highly doubt a 3rd daily on QF metal would come in unless EK dropped their flight.
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By hutch | Dec 05, 2017, 01:22 PM
I agree. I don't see QF adding a 3rd MEL-SIN flight. There are currently 10 weekly flights on the route (daily QF35/36 3 weekly QF37/38) for 280J/2430Y seats weekly (10x A332).

From late March, QF35/36 becomes A380 and QF37/38 becomes daily, for 98F/644J/245W/4298Y weekly seats.
Assuming they were to find a 'spare' A330 (likely pulling from domestic flights), they are more likely to open a new route into Asia from SYD, such as ICN, KUL or TPE, or open a new MEL flight to somewhere already served from SYD, such as BKK, PEK or PVG.


While I also don't see QF adding a 3rd MEL-SIN flight, do they not have a spare A330 following the SYD-SIN upgrade to A380 next year? You tend to track these things better than I do Himeno, so you will know.
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By Himeno | Dec 05, 2017, 02:20 PM
I agree. I don't see QF adding a 3rd MEL-SIN flight. There are currently 10 weekly flights on the route (daily QF35/36 3 weekly QF37/38) for 280J/2430Y seats weekly (10x A332).

From late March, QF35/36 becomes A380 and QF37/38 becomes daily, for 98F/644J/245W/4298Y weekly seats.
Assuming they were to find a 'spare' A330 (likely pulling from domestic flights), they are more likely to open a new route into Asia from SYD, such as ICN, KUL or TPE, or open a new MEL flight to somewhere already served from SYD, such as BKK, PEK or PVG.


While I also don't see QF adding a 3rd MEL-SIN flight, do they not have a spare A330 following the SYD-SIN upgrade to A380 next year? You tend to track these things better than I do Himeno, so you will know.

They are also making the new, originally announced 'seasonal', SYD-KIX flight (QF33/34) permanent. This was planned to be 3 weekly starting in 10 days time through late March when the Kangaroo route changes start and will now be year round.
Between the new KIX flights and the increase to daily for QF37/38, the 'spare' A330 from the QF35/36 upgrade is used.
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