Singapore Airlines (Krisflyer) Gold or Qantas Gold?

By Richard W | Oct 09, 2017, 11:36 AM
I have been an Elite Gold member with Krisflyer for over 2 years now.
Due to some specific travel with Qantas in the next few months I will be close to Gold with Qantas.
I travel around 8 times a year, primarily to Singapore in a mixture of business, premium economy and economy.
I cannot retain Gold with both airlines on these travel numbers.
Should I jump ship and transfer over to Qantas?
The other big factor is between my wife and myself we gain around 18,000 Qantas points each month from everyday spending.
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By silvyvc | Oct 09, 2017, 12:01 PM
Do you travel elsewhere? I think Qantas has fantastic lounge network with One World and for that sole reason, they are worthwhile, although Singapore Airlines' product is great in business. If you gain over 20k points, may be worthwhile to consider Qantas as you could use those points to upgrade on trips. My gut here will be to swap to QF.
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By JTG | Oct 09, 2017, 12:47 PM
I am PPS with Singapore and Platinum with Qantas and if I had to choose I would go with Qantas. The key points that sway my decision are One World have a better standard of lounges worldwide and I find it easier to earn Qantas points rather than Kisflyer miles
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By elchriss0 | Oct 09, 2017, 12:48 PM
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I have been an Elite Gold member with Krisflyer for over 2 years now.
Due to some specific travel with Qantas in the next few months I will be close to Gold with Qantas.
I travel around 8 times a year, primarily to Singapore in a mixture of business, premium economy and economy.
I cannot retain Gold with both airlines on these travel numbers.
Should I jump ship and transfer over to Qantas?
The other big factor is between my wife and myself we gain around 18,000 Qantas points each month from everyday spending.
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Is this 18k from credit card spend? If so, why not just change cards to earn the equivalent in krisflyer points plus the card sign up bonus?
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By Doubleplatinum | Oct 10, 2017, 03:55 PM
Krisflyer for sure, a flight on SQ is a dream compared to most QF flights loaded with cashed up bogans
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By alex_upgrade77 | Oct 10, 2017, 06:49 PM
Unless you're in Business, SQ don't look after their Star Gold members well in SIN at all. The Kris Flyer Gold lounge in Singapore is poor. With oneworld Gold you get access to QF, BA and CX lounges at Changi which all have showers (SQ Gold lounge doesn't). Sadly, SQ don't treat their non J and F passengers well at their home hub.
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By KinHo | Oct 10, 2017, 07:07 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Doesn't qualification to any higher tier of frequent flyer membership depends on the amount of flying with the airline? And if your next few months' flights are with Qantas (beyond your control) then you'd clock up for Qantas qualification anyway. Therefore I don't understand your having to consider to ditch one for the other.
If however you have control on whether to fly SQ or QF, then that's a fair question to ask.

On the matter of 18000 points earned from everyday spending, this might help you.
AMEX card will earn you $1 for 1 point. And transferring it to KrisFlyer points, it is 1pt AMEX to 1pt KrisFlyer. Where most other cards require 3 to 4 card points to 1 frequent flyer point.
On top of that, shopping at Coles and Woolworths supermarket will earn you 3 pts for $1.

I also found that the number of points for KrisFlyer redemption flight is lower than QF.
Plus you will get more redemption flights on main airline, and won't get that many flights that are under their partnering budget airline. Since you are travelling mostly to Singapore, these could be some points of consideration.
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By nix584 | Oct 11, 2017, 10:48 AM
Unless you're in Business, SQ don't look after their Star Gold members well in SIN at all. The Kris Flyer Gold lounge in Singapore is poor. With oneworld Gold you get access to QF, BA and CX lounges at Changi which all have showers (SQ Gold lounge doesn't). Sadly, SQ don't treat their non J and F passengers well at their home hub.
Slight correction... CX don't have their own lounge at SIN. And QF Gold is OW Sapphire, which gains access to the BA and QF lounges. QF Gold also gains access to the EK lounge at SIN if flying on QF or EK.

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By Booster | Oct 11, 2017, 02:50 PM
Go for QF Gold. Whilst SQ offer a superior product in every class of travel and new fangled conveniences like in flight wifi (which they have had for many years) and big aeroplanes like the 380 and 777 (which QF may have missed the memo on !) the SQ Gold lounge at Changai is a (bad) joke and there's no hope of advancement past Kris Flyer Gold without Business Class / First Class travel. (an issue for we budget conscious business travellers)
Whilst I'm the last person to recommend QF particularly over SQ in terms of product when it comes to loyalty schemes n lounges I think QF is the best choice for you.
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By Richard W | Oct 11, 2017, 03:46 PM
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I have been an Elite Gold member with Krisflyer for over 2 years now.
Due to some specific travel with Qantas in the next few months I will be close to Gold with Qantas.
I travel around 8 times a year, primarily to Singapore in a mixture of business, premium economy and economy.
I cannot retain Gold with both airlines on these travel numbers.
Should I jump ship and transfer over to Qantas?
The other big factor is between my wife and myself we gain around 18,000 Qantas points each month from everyday spending.
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Is this 18k from credit card spend? If so, why not just change cards to earn the equivalent in krisflyer points plus the card sign up bonus?
I have not found a credit card which still gives Krisflyer points. I have an Amex which is linked to Velocity points which I transfer over at a lesser rate. So My Aussie credit cards all flow into Qantas. Maybe I did not look hard enough!

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By Richard W | Oct 11, 2017, 03:49 PM
Go for QF Gold. Whilst SQ offer a superior product in every class of travel and new fangled conveniences like in flight wifi (which they have had for many years) and big aeroplanes like the 380 and 777 (which QF may have missed the memo on !) the SQ Gold lounge at Changai is a (bad) joke and there's no hope of advancement past Kris Flyer Gold without Business Class / First Class travel. (an issue for we budget conscious business travellers)
Whilst I'm the last person to recommend QF particularly over SQ in terms of product when it comes to loyalty schemes n lounges I think QF is the best choice for you.
Thanks for your comments. The opportunity to use EK lounges at Melb and Sin is a big incentive!

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By Richard W | Oct 11, 2017, 03:52 PM
Do you travel elsewhere? I think Qantas has fantastic lounge network with One World and for that sole reason, they are worthwhile, although Singapore Airlines' product is great in business. If you gain over 20k points, may be worthwhile to consider Qantas as you could use those points to upgrade on trips. My gut here will be to swap to QF.

The SilverKris lounge in Melb and the Gold lounge at Changi (although I most always get access to the Silverkris lounge there by asking another single traveller to take me in as their guest) are big factors when comparing the chance to use the EK lounge instead at both airports.
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By Richard W | Oct 11, 2017, 03:57 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Doesn't qualification to any higher tier of frequent flyer membership depends on the amount of flying with the airline? And if your next few months' flights are with Qantas (beyond your control) then you'd clock up for Qantas qualification anyway. Therefore I don't understand your having to consider to ditch one for the other.
If however you have control on whether to fly SQ or QF, then that's a fair question to ask.

On the matter of 18000 points earned from everyday spending, this might help you.
AMEX card will earn you $1 for 1 point. And transferring it to KrisFlyer points, it is 1pt AMEX to 1pt KrisFlyer. Where most other cards require 3 to 4 card points to 1 frequent flyer point.
On top of that, shopping at Coles and Woolworths supermarket will earn you 3 pts for $1.

I also found that the number of points for KrisFlyer redemption flight is lower than QF.
Plus you will get more redemption flights on main airline, and won't get that many flights that are under their partnering budget airline. Since you are travelling mostly to Singapore, these could be some points of consideration.
I have control over which airline I use (mostly) and can only attain QF Gold and retain it on my schedule by ditching Krisflyer. Or I forget swapping to QF and retain Singapore Gold.
I am on QF business return to Tokyo in 5 weeks (A330-300) and will consider which one to swap to after that trip. I recently flew Emirates A380 business to SG and both the lounge and flight were fantastic. I can also use them to continue to fly to SG. Is that partnership continuing? Losing Emirates as an option would be a consideration.
I will look again at my credit cards if I decide to stay with Singapore Airlines.

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By Richard W | Oct 11, 2017, 03:58 PM
Krisflyer for sure, a flight on SQ is a dream compared to most QF flights loaded with cashed up bogans
Haha, nice comment

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By Richard W | Oct 11, 2017, 04:03 PM
Go for QF Gold. Whilst SQ offer a superior product in every class of travel and new fangled conveniences like in flight wifi (which they have had for many years) and big aeroplanes like the 380 and 777 (which QF may have missed the memo on !) the SQ Gold lounge at Changai is a (bad) joke and there's no hope of advancement past Kris Flyer Gold without Business Class / First Class travel. (an issue for we budget conscious business travellers)
Whilst I'm the last person to recommend QF particularly over SQ in terms of product when it comes to loyalty schemes n lounges I think QF is the best choice for you.
Thanks, I am swaying that way right now. I also believe I can retain Gold with QF on 1 less return flight than using SG. Using QF or Emirates lounges is a big factor for me. Who does not like the Moet offered by EK in their lounge?!

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By twkgill | Oct 11, 2017, 04:11 PM
Also given your frequent travel to Singapore, if you align with QF and have gold it will make points upgrades easier to get. Especially a few cheeky first upgrades with the A380 next year!

SQ upgrades for PPS are virtually non-existent, let alone Gold.
Last edited by twkgill at Oct 11, 2017, 04.12 PM.
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