Suggestions for new Qantas hub flights?

By aniljak | Sep 01, 2017, 11:35 AM
Now Qantas  has returned to flying  via Singapore  to London, hopefully  we will see the return of the Singapore hub with flights hubbing there from all over Australia and some continuing on to Asia  and Europe
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Personally  i would like to see:
Adelaide, Canberra, Cairns, Darwin and Townsville  all with nonstop services to Singapore;
Alice springs- Broome - Singapore;
Melbourne - Singapore- Frankfurt  on A380;
Brisbane -Singapore- India;
 Singapore to Dubai link;
Singapore- Canberra- Auckland. 

What routes would you like to see Qantas  introduce from Singapore?

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By victort | Sep 01, 2017, 12:03 PM
QF linking via SIN opens up a whole new can of connections (esp via Asia) that weren't logical with the hub being in DXB! 

Eg you don't want to fly 14hrs to then backtrack 3 more hrs to go to India

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By Dredgy | Sep 01, 2017, 12:25 PM
I have a weird pet peeve that I don't like to travel in the wrong direction when I'm flying. For example, my home base is Rockhampton (ROK) and I absolutely hate having to fly down to Brisbane and then fly back up to Dubai or Japan or wherever.

So my ideal (and slightly fantastical) setup would be Darwin as a sort of Australia-wide hub with ULR aircraft connecting directly to Asia and Europe and completely forgoing Dubai/Singapore hubs and get feed from all over Australia. So I could ideally fly ROK->DRW->CDG or BME->DRW->FRA. 

Will never happen, but I'd like it to.
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By GBRGB | Sep 01, 2017, 01:11 PM
TSV-SIN, wind the clock back 30 years, but I think we will be waiting a while,QF make too much money out of flying us all through BNE to change anything. 
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By Packetman21 | Sep 01, 2017, 02:07 PM
Well, I think QF would prefer to be routing everyone to Perth, rather than Singapore, helping them really consolidate Perth as being the new hub. 

Very happy though, that Singapore will be once again the stop over for the Sydney flights. Will be interesting how Emirates sees this...
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By aniljak | Sep 01, 2017, 02:16 PM
The only problem as i see it is Qantas  lacks a 200-250 seater like 767s they used to use to hub in Singapore. Should use some of their 787s on order
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By markpk | Sep 01, 2017, 02:54 PM
I have a weird pet peeve that I don't like to travel in the wrong direction when I'm flying. For example, my home base is Rockhampton (ROK) and I absolutely hate having to fly down to Brisbane and then fly back up to Dubai or Japan or wherever.

So my ideal (and slightly fantastical) setup would be Darwin as a sort of Australia-wide hub with ULR aircraft connecting directly to Asia and Europe and completely forgoing Dubai/Singapore hubs and get feed from all over Australia. So I could ideally fly ROK->DRW->CDG or BME->DRW->FRA. 

Will never happen, but I'd like it to.

I hear what you're saying but Darwin is a military airport first and foremost so we're unlikely to see any significant investment in flights and lounges
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By Dredgy | Sep 01, 2017, 07:36 PM
I have a weird pet peeve that I don't like to travel in the wrong direction when I'm flying. For example, my home base is Rockhampton (ROK) and I absolutely hate having to fly down to Brisbane and then fly back up to Dubai or Japan or wherever.

So my ideal (and slightly fantastical) setup would be Darwin as a sort of Australia-wide hub with ULR aircraft connecting directly to Asia and Europe and completely forgoing Dubai/Singapore hubs and get feed from all over Australia. So I could ideally fly ROK->DRW->CDG or BME->DRW->FRA. 

Will never happen, but I'd like it to.

I hear what you're saying but Darwin is a military airport first and foremost so we're unlikely to see any significant investment in flights and lounges

I'm under no delusion that it will happen - the airport will have to be entirely remodelled and Qantas (or whatever airline) would have to shake up their business model pretty significantly.
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By Jedinak K | Sep 01, 2017, 08:12 PM
As far as QF is concerned, Singapore is a stop-measure hub for flights to London which they hope will soon turn non-stop from the eastern coast if they can get the right aircraft. QF cannot compete with the frequency and feeder traffic that SQ and other carriers can garner through their hubs, which is why they still have the tie-up with Emirates. Additionally with the introduction of the B787-9 aircraft, it is more likely that they will launch more flights to Europe via Perth as they will have a monopoly. 
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By afloskar | Sep 01, 2017, 08:47 PM
I have a weird pet peeve that I don't like to travel in the wrong direction when I'm flying. For example, my home base is Rockhampton (ROK) and I absolutely hate having to fly down to Brisbane and then fly back up to Dubai or Japan or wherever.

So my ideal (and slightly fantastical) setup would be Darwin as a sort of Australia-wide hub with ULR aircraft connecting directly to Asia and Europe and completely forgoing Dubai/Singapore hubs and get feed from all over Australia. So I could ideally fly ROK->DRW->CDG or BME->DRW->FRA. 

Will never happen, but I'd like it to.

Where's the passengers going to come from?
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By jamesanderson | Sep 01, 2017, 10:25 PM
Perth to Hong Kong via Singapore (10+ years ago, Qantas operated QF 077 and QF 078 on that routing) using an A330: Perth to Singapore v.v 5 hours 10, Singapore to Hong Kong v.v 3 hours 55, plus the stopover in Singapore - it will be perfect in terms of aircraft utilisation
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By Rosechal | Sep 01, 2017, 10:54 PM
Now Qantas  has returned to flying  via Singapore  to London, hopefully  we will see the return of the Singapore hub with flights hubbing there from all over Australia and some continuing on to Asia  and Europe
.
Personally  i would like to see:
Adelaide, Canberra, Cairns, Darwin and Townsville  all with nonstop services to Singapore;
Alice springs- Broome - Singapore;
Melbourne - Singapore- Frankfurt  on A380;
Brisbane -Singapore- India;
 Singapore to Dubai link;
Singapore- Canberra- Auckland. 

What routes would you like to see Qantas  introduce from Singapore?

Technically Qantas already does a direct route to Singapore from Darwin and Cairns.  Although they are run by Jetstar.  A nearly 5 hour flight on a crampt Jetstar plane does not appeal to me in the slightest though.
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By hutch | Sep 02, 2017, 01:30 AM
Now Qantas  has returned to flying  via Singapore  to London, hopefully  we will see the return of the Singapore hub with flights hubbing there from all over Australia and some continuing on to Asia  and Europe
.
Personally  i would like to see:
Adelaide, Canberra, Cairns, Darwin and Townsville  all with nonstop services to Singapore;
Alice springs- Broome - Singapore;
Melbourne - Singapore- Frankfurt  on A380;
Brisbane -Singapore- India;
 Singapore to Dubai link;
Singapore- Canberra- Auckland. 

What routes would you like to see Qantas  introduce from Singapore?


I don't think any of those routes will happen or are commercially sustainable. Except perhaps a link to India (a 737 Sin to India) - the arrival time would be terrible though. 
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By highflyer | Sep 02, 2017, 03:50 AM
With Qantas relocating back to Singapore as a hub, which carrier will be their partner to fly to other parts of Asia?  Does Jetstar have the footprint in asia to do so?  I don't see premium pax liking to fly with Jetstar much if they have a choice
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By lind26 | Sep 02, 2017, 05:32 PM
Now Qantas  has returned to flying  via Singapore  to London, hopefully  we will see the return of the Singapore hub with flights hubbing there from all over Australia and some continuing on to Asia  and Europe
.
Personally  i would like to see:
Adelaide, Canberra, Cairns, Darwin and Townsville  all with nonstop services to Singapore;
Alice springs- Broome - Singapore;
Melbourne - Singapore- Frankfurt  on A380;
Brisbane -Singapore- India;
 Singapore to Dubai link;
Singapore- Canberra- Auckland. 

What routes would you like to see Qantas  introduce from Singapore?

I would like to see Alice Springs to Broome, so hard to get to Broome from East Coast!
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By Dredgy | Sep 02, 2017, 06:16 PM

I have a weird pet peeve that I don't like to travel in the wrong direction when I'm flying. For example, my home base is Rockhampton (ROK) and I absolutely hate having to fly down to Brisbane and then fly back up to Dubai or Japan or wherever.

So my ideal (and slightly fantastical) setup would be Darwin as a sort of Australia-wide hub with ULR aircraft connecting directly to Asia and Europe and completely forgoing Dubai/Singapore hubs and get feed from all over Australia. So I could ideally fly ROK->DRW->CDG or BME->DRW->FRA. 

Will never happen, but I'd like it to.


Where's the passengers going to come from?


Well it'd be a hub - so same places as now but more streamlined.

 Let's take LHR for example. You want to fly Qantas from Cairns to London. You have to fly to Brisbane, then Perth, then to London. Horribly inefficient, so you fly another airline.


In another example, say Paris - there's enough demand to fly direct from SYD to CDG, but there is not enough demand from BNE, ADL,PER, CNS, OOL, maybe MEL etc to launch direct flights from those cities (assuming you can find an aircraft capable of doing it). So Darwin would act as a funneling point for pax from those cities (PER->DRW->CDG, ADL->DRW->CDG, CNS->DRW->CDG). 


That's how hubs work...

Darwin's also super geographically convenient, so much more forgiving on profits than Sydney if a plane can't be filled or there's an insane headwind. Not many places in Europe you can't reach from Darwin. Could also be used for East-West flights as a few here have expressed a wish for. GLT->DRW->PHE for instance would likely see a fair bit of use.  

Last edited by Dredgy at Sep 02, 2017, 06.21 PM.
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