Why does Qantas fly to both Haneda & Narita?
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The airport buses take 50-70 minutes between NRT and areas in Eastern/South Eastern Tokyo (inc HND) depending on traffic.
There is a train option to connect the airports. This is a joint service by Keisei and Keikyu (rail operator at HND into Tokyo) and runs on the normal commuter tracks and through the Asakusa subway Line. Using this train to connect takes a while as it stops at all the subway stations.
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HND was the original international airport for Tokyo. When NRT was built, HND was closed to most international traffic and international flights moved to NRT. The only overseas flights permitted at HND were "scheduled charters" which were range limited to be within the longest domestic flight possible from HND, thus only international flights to South Korea, Taiwan and parts of mainland China were allowed.
With curfew, slot and expansion issues at NRT, a new intentional terminal and additional runways were built at HND, and from late 2010, the airport was reopened to limited long haul flights.
Long haul slots for HND are assigned by the Japanese Government to selected nations. These slots are either night time (10pm-6am) or day time (6am-10pm).
Australia currently only has 14 weekly night slots, 7 for Australian carriers (taken by QF) and 7 for Japanese carriers (taken by NH).
In addition to the time requirements, an airline flying to HND is required to also maintain flights to NRT. Some airlines take this to mean the same route (eg LAX-HND and LAX-NRT), others take it to mean any flight (thus QF starting BNE-NRT as soon as they started SYD-HND).
The US was originally given 4 night slots which were split between AA, UA, DL and HA. However, due to flight times and time zones, the US departure/arrival times did not work well with many routes failing to make money (eg not many people wanted to depart/arrive JFK at 2am...). DL also wanted enough HND slots move their entire NRT hub operation and started a big fight about it. After around 2 years of DL arguing and negotiations between US DOT and JP MLIT, the US now has 4 day slots and 1 night slot.
The night HND slots allow QF25 to land as soon as it reaches Tokyo, rather then having to hold until 6am for NRT to open. I was once on a QF25 that landed just after 4am.
[quote]So where do the JAL flights fall within those Slots? Are they classified differently? [/quote]
Yes. The JAL flights, and all flights between Australia and Japan other then those to/from HND, are operated under open skies and only require landing slots at the airport.
No more flights to HND from Australia can happen unless the Japanese MLIT releases more slots to the Australia route (or QF/NH stop HND-SYD flights and hand their slots back for another airline to use)
Additional slots may be some time coming. There are a total of 60,000 annual slots for long haul flights, half for night flights, half for day. This equates to 82 slots/day for non Japanese carriers and MLIT decides which countries get these slots. Most of the slots have been given to North America and Europe.
More slots need changes to and additional taxiways, which will take at least 3 years.
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Don't the JAL flights to Sydney operate out of Narita?
The current AU-JP non stop flights are:
NRT-
SYD (JL)
OOL (JQ)
CNS (JQ)
BNE (QF)
MEL (QF)
HND-
SYD (QF)
SYD (NH)
KIX-
CNS (JQ)
Only HND is slot restricted by treaty. With open skies between Australia and Japan for all other Japanese ports, NRT is only slot limited for operational reasons, such as curfews and runway availablity.
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ITM isn't quite like Kansai, it has no international flights period after KIX opened and the local governments want the airport to close. There are a lot more restrictions on operations at ITM then even NRT with all the issues NRT has with the locals (just look at the farm house in the middle of NRT runway B).
They were going to build a Shinkansen line out to NRT when the airport was built, but they had even more problems getting the needed land for the right of way then they had getting land for the airport.
The land they did get for the NRT Shinkansen is now used for the Keisei Sky Access Line (the 38 minute run between NRT and Nippori/Ueno)
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