Brisbane to San Francisco: Air New Zealand or Virgin & Delta?

By lvtravel01 | Dec 10, 2018, 10:37 PM
Hi everyone, i am comparing economy flight options from brisbane to san francisco. I have Air NZ via Auckland (2 or 3 hr layover each direction) or VA/Delta via LAX (3hr+ lay over). Fare similar. I have VA Gold and priority pass. Which route would everyone suggest?
If VA/Delta, I get status. With Air NZ, I can avoid LAX (is LAX bad?).
Thanks a lot for feedback.
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By Andrew Barkery | Dec 10, 2018, 11:17 PM
With AirNZ, some days, there are premY seats on sale, for $400 more than whY.
Go with that if you can afford it.
If you do decide to fly AirNZ, join SQ's KF and earn points with KF, points can then be transferred to VFF at a discount.
If you fly AirNZ premY, you will earn more points than in whY.
If you choose Y(X) with VA, you don't earn any extra in VFF.
I prefer a wide body for my flights, so would go with AirNZ if I were to do this flight, don't like small planes.
Yes, with AirNZ you don't get status credits, but at the least you do still get miles, and a bit of plushness in premY.
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By djtech | Dec 10, 2018, 11:20 PM
I would recommend virgin and delta if the price is the same. Since you already have status with virgin, you can enjoy lounge access when flying with them and Delta, in addition to other benefits such as priority boarding and free checked luggage. Not to mention the better economy config in virgin long haul fleet with much wider seats compared to air NZ.

As long as you leave ample time for your connection at lax (2-3 hours), you will be fine. Although, it may seem daunting to fly through LAX, it is not that bad. Even if you miss your connecting delta flight, you will be rebooked. During the layover, you can even enjoy the Delta SkyClubs at LAX.

If you’re booking with Air NZ, you don’t get the benefits such as lounge access. Auckland is a better airport to transit through but no lounge access is a deal breaker for me.
Last edited by djtech at Dec 10, 2018, 11.22 PM.
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By lvtravel01 | Dec 10, 2018, 11:24 PM
I would recommend virgin and delta if the price is the same. Since you already have status with virgin, you can enjoy lounge access when flying with them and Delta, in addition to other benefits such as priority boarding and free checked luggage.

As long as you leave ample time for your connection at lax (2-3 hours), you will be fine. Although, it may seem daunting to fly through LAX, it is not that bad. Even if you miss your connecting delta flight, you will be rebooked. During the layover, you can even enjoy the Delta SkyClubs at LAX.

If you’re booking with Air NZ, you don’t get the benefits such as lounge access. Auckland is a better airport to transit through but no lounge access is a deal breaker for me.

Thanks a lot. Thought the same. Though i have prioritypass to get lounge. Havent experinced air nz and va international flights. Be good if anyone knows how they compare - seat/hardware/service.
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By lvtravel01 | Dec 10, 2018, 11:26 PM
Hi everyone, i am comparing economy flight options from brisbane to san francisco. I have Air NZ via Auckland (2 or 3 hr layover each direction) or VA/Delta via LAX (3hr+ lay over). Fare similar. I have VA Gold and priority pass. Which route would everyone suggest?
If VA/Delta, I get status. With Air NZ, I can avoid LAX (is LAX bad?).
Thanks a lot for feedback.

Thanks! I thought kf-vff is at 1:1.35 both way? Not sure of the kf to vff discount.
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By GB18 | Dec 10, 2018, 11:52 PM
Although it’s certainly not a fun experience, I think LAX isn’t as bad as some people make out I fly there return at least twice a year with minimal dramas. If your layover is 3 hours as you mentioned freshen up with a shower at the Delta Sky Club if you have VA Gold
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By Anna80 | Dec 11, 2018, 07:34 AM
I'd try to get premium economy for this, Virgin has a good premium economy on its Boeing 777s to LAX although you then have that LAX layover when SFO is barely an hour's flight away. Air New Zealand also has a stopover but that's in Auckland and then you are straight through to San Francisco!
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By MRYJDrake | Dec 11, 2018, 09:15 AM
This might be my kiwi bias, but I would absolutely go with the Air NZ option.

The lounge at Auckland is worth it, and if you're not flying J, then you can always buy into the Strata Lounge, which I've never had a problem with. Food is OK, the showers are good (it used to be the Emirates lounge before it became the Emperor lounge then the Strata Lounge), and then you're straight to sleep on Air NZ direct to SFO.
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By mcglynp | Dec 11, 2018, 10:05 AM
From a seat point of view I prefer VA over Air NZ in Y, pitch and width are far superior on VA . Service is about the same. Air NZ has a much better entertainment. If you can afford the extra for Economy X in VA I find it a worthwhile improvement for the extra space. LAX is a lot better than it used to be, and transiting to DL is simple. With good lounge access, extra luggage from gold status along with gaining points. I would likely choose VA.

However, Hawaiian is a good option from BNE transiting through HNL to SFO. Still get points and lounge access and it breaks the flights down to more manageable chunks. Hawaiian have a well priced extra comfort option in Y that is worth the extra.

Last edited by mcglynp at Dec 11, 2018, 10.11 AM.
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By FrequentFlyer | Dec 11, 2018, 01:17 PM
Virgin is all up a better experience to LA in every class imo- especially with VA Gold. The transfer to Delta in LA really isn't that bad anymore and you get looked after with status. There are some good deals in both Economy and Premium I've seen pop up in targeted advertising too.
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By lvtravel01 | Dec 11, 2018, 05:23 PM
booked VA/DL
yay!
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By Red Cee | Dec 11, 2018, 05:55 PM
Which timetable suits you best?
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By MelbFlyer | Dec 11, 2018, 06:12 PM
If flying economy I would definitely go VA over NZ. Have done both and the 3-3-3 on VA is so noticeable after flying 3-4-3 on NZ
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By Andrew Barkery | Dec 12, 2018, 01:03 AM
((For Iltravel01)), KF & VFF now is at 1:1.55, ie need more of each to go for the other.
IF you have 5000 KF, you get less VFF and vice versa, can't remember when the date it was to happen, or has happened.
Edit: https://www.ausbt.com.au/your-virgin-australia-velocity-points-are-about-to-lose-their-value
Last edited by Andrew Barkery at Dec 12, 2018, 01.07 AM.
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By rossma | Dec 12, 2018, 03:51 PM
Hi everyone, i am comparing economy flight options from brisbane to san francisco. I have Air NZ via Auckland (2 or 3 hr layover each direction) or VA/Delta via LAX (3hr+ lay over). Fare similar. I have VA Gold and priority pass. Which route would everyone suggest?
If VA/Delta, I get status. With Air NZ, I can avoid LAX (is LAX bad?).
Thanks a lot for feedback.

We have flown both VA and Air NZ business and we think VA wins hands down. Also loathe that extra leg via AUK, makes for a long trip. Also do VA premium economy and really excellent and, as some have said, lounge access in LAX is great with VA.
Last edited by rossma at Dec 12, 2018, 03.54 PM.
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By Jazzop | Dec 21, 2018, 06:03 PM
Without a doubt go VA. All classes are better than NZ. The only negatives on VA is IFE choice is small, and food in economy is below standard. If you're in business, then nothing is better than The Business on VA.

LAX is great now days. You arrive at TBT @ LAX, clear customs (around 20 minutes) and you're out. You drop your bag off to the transfer people as you're exiting the terminal then make your way to delta's terminal. I always enjoy the walk after the long flight. Then go through Sky Priority queue with DL, again not as bad as it used to be. The transfer on the way back is better. Check your bag through in at SFO and the transfer from DLs terminals to TBT is a shuttle from the terminal into TBT so you don't need to clear security again. Plus the shuttle is on the flight line so that's cool.


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