Flying Sydney to Panama direct - will this route ever happen?

By brettepi | Dec 06, 2017, 10:23 AM
I fly to colombia every few years and wish there was a quicker way to get there. I read once that sydney to panama direct was on the cards with one airline, but can't find anymore information about this. does anyone know if it could happen?
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By russell | Dec 06, 2017, 10:42 AM
Which airline would offer it and is there really that much of a demand? Certainly Qantas would never fly there.
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By John Phelan | Dec 06, 2017, 11:21 AM
In a word - no. Not in our lifetimes, anyway. Insufficient demand.
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By aldrigsomandre | Dec 06, 2017, 11:35 AM
I think Santiago will remain Australia's only gateway to Latin America for a while longer.
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By Mjkcan | Dec 06, 2017, 12:59 PM
In what world would this make any sense? Seattle, bogota, Mexico City, buenos aires, rio, São Paulo, Lima, Portland, Phoenix, Toronto, Chicago and Las Vegas would all be far more logical choices than a Central American capital 99% of Australians would not be able to locate on a map.
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By Joshb | Dec 06, 2017, 02:28 PM
Perhaps you're confused with the announced, but not flown, EK operated DXB-Panama City. I'd presume that SYD-SCL-Panama City would be quicker than SYD-DXB-Panama City.
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By aniljak | Dec 06, 2017, 05:48 PM
From 1964 to 1974 Qantas flew a 707 on th3 fiesta route: Sydney - Nadi - Papeete - Acapulco- Mexico city - Nassau (Bahamas) - Bermuda- London.
Anybody able to advise what loads were like? Given it lasted 10 years must have been good!
This would be a very interesting route if flown today, opening up central America and Carribean to the Pacific!
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By Dredgy | Dec 06, 2017, 11:07 PM
Panama is a hub for COPA, which is in star alliance, so unlikely Qantas will ever fly there, but it is the best connected city in the region but no O&D traffic. I just can’t see it ever happening. I would think Bogotá direct would actually be more likely, or Miami even moreso
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By Dan22 | Dec 07, 2017, 11:55 AM
Slightly off topic - Have used COPA twice in the last month to connect to Cuba and Colombia - what a dump of an airport and the most depressing flagship lounge I’ve ever seen. Looks like Panama airport is building a much needed new terminal though still couple years away. No wonder emirates has delayed starting.
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By brettepi | Dec 08, 2017, 09:52 AM
does anyone think sydney to miami or sydney to bogota direct would happen in the next few years?
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By S | Dec 08, 2017, 11:55 AM
does anyone think sydney to miami or sydney to bogota direct would happen in the next few years?

Highly doubt we will see either of these ever happen.
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By Dredgy | Dec 09, 2017, 04:48 AM
Yeah I was just theorising. Both are much more likely than flights to Panama, but neither are even remotely likely.
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By kimshep | Dec 09, 2017, 09:12 AM

does anyone think sydney to miami or sydney to bogota direct would happen in the next few years?


Doubtful.

SYD-BOG can already be done as a 1-stop flying SYD-DFW-BOG (v.v.) on QF/AA or QF/LAN via SCL.

SYD-MIA can also be done as a 1-stop (using DFW, LAX or SFO as connect points).

A SYD-MIA nonstop would theoretically require the same aircraft capability that QF is talking up for the proposed SYD-JFK or SYD-LHR non-stops. This may be a possibility if all the ducks line up, but would still be 3-4 years off, at best.

Last edited by kimshep at Dec 09, 2017, 09.14 AM.
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By gupayami | Dec 10, 2017, 12:57 PM

From 1964 to 1974 Qantas flew a 707 on th3 fiesta route: Sydney - Nadi - Papeete - Acapulco- Mexico city - Nassau (Bahamas) - Bermuda- London.
Anybody able to advise what loads were like? Given it lasted 10 years must have been good!
This would be a very interesting route if flown today, opening up central America and Carribean to the Pacific!

Fascinating route. I found a link to this on airliners.net (though I can't seem to link to it :/)

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By aussie-flyer | Dec 11, 2017, 10:39 AM
Or you could go one stop via Houston as United now fly direct from Sydney
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By anthony watts | Dec 11, 2017, 04:03 PM
From 1964 to 1974 Qantas flew a 707 on th3 fiesta route: Sydney - Nadi - Papeete - Acapulco- Mexico city - Nassau (Bahamas) - Bermuda- London.
Anybody able to advise what loads were like? Given it lasted 10 years must have been good!
This would be a very interesting route if flown today, opening up central America and Carribean to the Pacific!

My grandparents flew this route quite often. I think it was branded the " hibiscus route" or something similar. As far as i recall they did not take it right through to london, just to either Apapulco or Nassau where they had friends. Doesnt help much with your "load" question...!
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