Qantas to enforce dress code at Qantas Club airport lounges

Qantas to enforce dress code at Qantas Club airport lounges

Qantas is clamping down on poorly-dressed passengers at its airport lounges, with the airline announcing it will be more rigorous in enforcing "minimum smart casual dress guidelines" at Qantas Club and Qantas Business Lounges.

From April 1, travellers visiting Qantas lounges at Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Canberra, Perth and Adelaide airports will need to ensure they're suitable togged up, or risk being turned away at the front desk.

"Entry may be refused at the discretion of the lounge staff if visitors do not meet the appropriate standard", the airline says.

"Lounge staff will use their discretion to determine if a visitor to the lounge meets our smart casual dress guidelines.

A Qantas spokesperson told Australian Business Traveller that customers entering these lounges "will receive a friendly reminder about the smart casual dress guidelines that apply."

Qantas has always listed a 'smart casual dress standard' in its terms and conditions, with singlets, bare feet, rubber thongs "and clothing with offensive images or slogans" in most cases considered unacceptable in the capital city lounges.

“The dress guidelines for our lounges are the same as most restaurants and clubs" the Qantas spokesperson said.

"The vast majority of our members meet and exceed the guidelines, but we have had some feedback from customers that they want to see those guidelines apply to everyone."

Until April 1, signage will also be displayed at the entry of each lounge reminding travellers of the guidelines.

Workers wearing high-visibility vests will not be affected by the dress standards.

So what is 'smart casual'?

It all begs the question: exactly what is 'smart casual'?

Wikipedia describes it as "an ambiguously-defined dress code that is generally a neat yet informal attire," and what constitutes 'smart casual' can depend on "the locality, type of event, context or culture... therefore the designating of certain clothing pieces as smart casual is disputed – for example, jeans."

In the hierarchy of dress codes smart casual is a notch down from business casual, which in turn sits one rung below business formal.

“The key look in this dress code is a chic, put-together ensemble,” suggests Darlene Price, author of Well Said! Presentations and Conversations That Get Results.

"It fashionably combines elements from the other dress codes, such as a nice pair of dark slacks, with a coordinated dressy blouse, jacket, and scarf, or a nice pair of trousers with a button-down shirt and sport coat."

So for blokes: think of the baseline as smart-looking pants (including dress jeans or chinos) topped by a simple polo shirt or dress shirt sans tie.

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102 Comments

  • Colster

    Colster

    12 Feb, 2015 02:53 pm

    The FIFOs in Perth are NOT going to be happy! Is a high-vis vest considered smart casual?

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  • Charles

    Charles

    12 Feb, 2015 03:02 pm

    Colster, I thought exactly the same thing!  

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  • Mal

    Mal

    12 Feb, 2015 03:13 pm

    Hi-viz will be exempt, the article says.

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  • sagidec

    sagidec

    12 Feb, 2015 03:13 pm

    High vis vest was a fashion in the 80's right? 

    Equivalent to fluoro? ;)

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  • Colster

    Colster

    12 Feb, 2015 03:18 pm

    Yes, I saw that.. but is hi-viz considered smart casual now?

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  • S

    S

    12 Feb, 2015 03:58 pm

    Of course Hi-Viz is exempt.

    How else would Tony Abbott be let into the QC then?

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  • 11sjw

    11sjw

    12 Feb, 2015 07:32 pm

    No, it's considered work uniform.

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  • Robert  K

    Robert K

    12 Feb, 2015 11:10 pm

    Do they know how to a knife and fork and what a table is

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  • AWA2602

    AWA2602

    14 Feb, 2015 12:33 am

    Why cant the FIFO's wear appropriate travel attire and then change into their work clothes when they get to work?

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  • John Leslie

    John Leslie

    13 Apr, 2015 07:56 am

    Tailored shorts, shoes, and open neck shirt are ok?

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  • Joe

    Joe

    12 Feb, 2015 03:15 pm

    I'm actually more offended of seeing people use tables and chairs as their own personal 'feet seat'. Like seriously you are not in your own living room plus we eat off those tables. I'd rather see Qantas staff enforce etiquette policies in their lounges. 

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  • crosscourt

    crosscourt

    13 Feb, 2015 10:38 am

    You have that right as well.

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  • simon drakeley

    simon drakeley

    12 Feb, 2015 03:16 pm

    FIFO in high vis and workwear allowed over someone in shorts and a Tshirt - money talks!

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  • Robert  K

    Robert K

    12 Feb, 2015 11:11 pm

    Money can't buy class and breeding 

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  • milsgough

    milsgough

    12 Feb, 2015 03:25 pm

    And for the ladies?? (Not that I need the information, I just find it odd that this article only addresses the blokes)

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  • David Flynn

    David Flynn

    12 Feb, 2015 03:53 pm

    Darlene Price already lists some women's clothing items in her quotes in the article: "It fashionably combines elements from the other dress codes, such as a nice pair of dark slacks, with a coordinated dressy blouse, jacket, and scarf, or a nice pair of trousers with a button-down shirt and sport coat."

    In my experience, too, women travellers dress up more than men and have a better sense of 'appropriate style' into the bargain; that, plus the comments above and AusBT's audience being 80% male, means I felt it better to call out a few specific notes for the blokes.

    And if you'd like to suggest here in the comments what you'd feel might be suitable 'smart casual' for women, that'd be great to see.

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  • TheRealBabushka

    TheRealBabushka

    12 Feb, 2015 04:34 pm

    David,

    Defining a dress code is acceptable. Not defining what is acceptable is unacceptable! Who is the arbiter of smart casual???

    This ambiguous approach, where enforcement is left to the discretion of staff may be open to abuse and accusations of unfair treatment.

    I'm quite concerned by this....

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  • jrfsp

    jrfsp

    12 Feb, 2015 03:27 pm

    High Vis is a safety requirement, QF would lose lots of business if they didnt allow it.

    Interestingly Darwin isnt Included, its my favourite qantas club since the refurb!

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  • Hugo

    Hugo

    12 Feb, 2015 04:56 pm

    Hi-Viz clothing is certainly a safety requirement when you're on a mine site. I've never been sure why it's necessary at the airport, or on a plane.

    (I used to have a job that required high-viz. I wore it, too, for about three days, before I realised that none of my coworkers were bothering to do so...)

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  • jrfsp

    jrfsp

    12 Feb, 2015 05:26 pm

    Because they get transferred straight to the site by bus on arrival at the aiport, or helicopter transfer in some cases to offshore

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  • Anne-Marie Homes

    Anne-Marie Homes

    12 Feb, 2015 03:32 pm

    About time I say! And I think Hi Viz should still have to be clean and tidy with shoes on. 

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  • mitchimus

    mitchimus

    12 Feb, 2015 03:40 pm

    seems the 'little' things cause the greatest consternation. I agree it would be better if they worried about behaviour in the lounge than what folk are wearing. After all what people wear has no impact on anyone but the wearer.

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  • Robert  K

    Robert K

    12 Feb, 2015 11:17 pm

    Obviously you wear glasses or blind , the world is full of visual pollution and in some special places I don't need to see it , go to a Westfield for some optical stimulation 

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  • Rishi Kataria

    Rishi Kataria

    12 Feb, 2015 04:16 pm

    I like this especially because I just saw some people at the Customs at Melbourne and some barely wear anything appropriate and wear stuff they probably would wear when watching TV late at night. 

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  • DaveK

    DaveK

    12 Feb, 2015 04:23 pm

    About time, overdue - witnessed thongs being utilised as footwear in Sydney First lounge at the end of last year!

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  • Hugo

    Hugo

    12 Feb, 2015 05:03 pm

    So? If I'm going on a quick jaunt to Thailand should I pack extra shoes just for the Qantas Club?

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  • Doubleplatinum

    Doubleplatinum

    12 Feb, 2015 08:35 pm

    You should take the bogan bus jetstar sounds like you'd fit in

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  • Hugo

    Hugo

    13 Feb, 2015 07:38 am

    Snobbery is for those who are terrified of being confused with being lower than themselves because they're only just on the *edge* of the group they see themselves as belonging to.

    People who call people "bogans" are generally barely a shade above being lower-middle-class themselves. Often they're the first generation in their family to attend university.

    It's a bit like the eight-year-olds beating up the seven-year-olds. I can understand it but I'm not gonna join in.

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  • Texrex79

    Texrex79

    13 Feb, 2015 09:32 pm

    Yes exactly. I don't want want to see nasty feet in a lounge, a grocery store, a cafe, or anywhere near where food is seen. Except for my house and the beach. 

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  • Seb81

    Seb81

    16 Feb, 2015 01:02 am

    Thongs in the first lounge - shock horror!!!! *world ending in 3...2...1...*

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  • Mark Bringans

    Mark Bringans

    16 Feb, 2015 02:56 pm

    was it your first time in the lounge 

    you see it all the time

    who cares

    Going to Chengdu in May and Honolulu in August

    im a QC Gold

    will wear old shoes n bin them as i leave the lounge with the havianas, which will be removed for the biz class black socks on the jet

    the kind of people who want this change are the same morans who keep their shoes on for a whole medium or long haul then complain about DVT

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  • TheRealBabushka

    TheRealBabushka

    12 Feb, 2015 04:26 pm

    Where can we find the list of forbidden items to wear?

    I wonder if a burqa is on that list?

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  • Rishi Kataria

    Rishi Kataria

    12 Feb, 2015 05:20 pm

    Probably not, they will instantly brand you a terrorist and hand you over to the AFP to look after.

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  • Hugo

    Hugo

    12 Feb, 2015 05:22 pm

    Rishi: More likely the burqua will become compulsory, to go with the porkless meals.

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  • allrite

    allrite

    12 Feb, 2015 05:00 pm

    Surely t-shirts will be okay, otherwise what will Qantas board member Todd Sampson wear? 

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  • Hugo

    Hugo

    12 Feb, 2015 05:02 pm

    My guess is that the *actual* meaning of the policy is "no shoes, no shirt, no service" but that they don't want to say this so they set the stated bar a few inches higher. I'd be shocked if they actually start complaining about people in t-shirts and shorts (despite neither of these counting as "smart casual" in anyone's book).

    I've worn shorts and a t-shirt in the Lufthansa F terminal at FRA and the SQ Private Room at SIN. If shorts and a t-shirt is good enough for those places, it's good enough for the bloody Qantas Club.

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  • TheRealBabushka

    TheRealBabushka

    12 Feb, 2015 05:45 pm

    The RACV Club in Melbourne has a smart casual dress code policy. They further define "smart casual" to mean, "...Smart casual does not include: Thongs, torn jeans, tracksuit pants, beachwear, ugg boots, moccasins, singlets, tank tops, sport shorts, torn tee-shirts and baseball caps. T-shirts with inappropriate slogans are also not acceptable."

    Why can't Qantas provide the same level of transparency? 

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  • Robert  K

    Robert K

    12 Feb, 2015 11:15 pm

    I've been in both never seen a German CEO in short or the same in SQ  was it summer vacation time 

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  • gippsflyer

    gippsflyer

    13 Feb, 2015 01:29 pm

    That sounds most sensible to me Hugo, no need to go over the top, just clean clothes (can't go in encrusted with dust, dirt, oil, etc), mostly enclosed footwear (thongs more beach wear, that appropriate for a lounge), no tank tops or mid-riffs (no armpits or guts uncovered). Nothing with highly offensive language or imagery on display. Just common sense stuff when sharing enclosed spaces with a large number of people.

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  • Sim1

    Sim1

    12 Feb, 2015 05:28 pm

    Might have to leave the baby in a nappy and a singlet just outside the door.. lol

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  • gumshoe

    gumshoe

    12 Feb, 2015 05:38 pm

    Looks like my mining friend will no longer be in the Q lounge wearing his dirty safety shirt anymore, but he can still fly in J with it on as he did last week from Perth.

    In the lounge last week was a guy with big hairy armpits they burstng out of his tank top, poor fellow, he must have been doing it tough of late as his thongs were all worn out, but his ruggers were fine.

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  • Robert  K

    Robert K

    12 Feb, 2015 11:25 pm

    Thank you for the great update OMG what the rest of the world must think of us

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  • Robert  K

    Robert K

    12 Feb, 2015 11:25 pm

    Thank you for the great update OMG what the rest of the world must think of us

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  • Marianne Dixon

    Marianne Dixon

    12 Feb, 2015 06:27 pm

    In this article is says dress code restrictions are for major airports? Adelaide Airport is actually under the Regional Airport title by Qantas? Can anyone clarify this? 

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  • bsbtraveller

    bsbtraveller

    12 Feb, 2015 06:47 pm

    How silly. This is Australia and its 2015 and the QANTAS lounges are not the Savage or RACV Club, not even QF First.

    Getting on a plane is like getting a bus these days, so what's the big deal?  I personally am never offended by other people's clothing and find bogan-wear particulalry amusing, but I'm happy to live and let live.

    If other people's clothing offends you, you have bigger  I S S U E S, although I do draw the line at feet on the table as per Joe's comment.

    Get a life.

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  • mitchimus

    mitchimus

    12 Feb, 2015 11:29 pm

    Couldn't agree more!

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  • AussieGuest

    AussieGuest

    12 Feb, 2015 07:58 pm

    Qantas have much more to worry about than passenger attire. i.e. Keeping exisiting customers happy and attracting new ones.

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  • turbojezz

    turbojezz

    12 Feb, 2015 08:38 pm

    about bloody time!!! This is how it used to be many moons ago :)

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  • Chris_PER

    Chris_PER

    12 Feb, 2015 08:48 pm

    So Qantas is saying, if you have money to spend on premium classes, then you should dress like you have money.  What a joke.  Luckily it says rubber thongs are forbidden, since I wear leather ones.

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  • Robert  K

    Robert K

    12 Feb, 2015 11:21 pm

    None needs to see your feet 

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  • Texrex79

    Texrex79

    13 Feb, 2015 09:36 pm

    Amen. 

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  • gupayami

    gupayami

    12 Feb, 2015 09:31 pm

    I think this is a good thing. This is not being elitist - the Qantas Club is a *club* that offers entry to those who achieve a certain level of airline 'status' based on the amount of flying they have done, or alternatively those who pay for membership. If you want to wear your thongs and singlets, you can sit outside in the normal gate lounge. I have also seen bogans with their bare feet on the tables (BNE) which I found completely repulsive. I decided not to renew my membership as there were more cashed up bogans inside than outside.

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  • Mark Bringans

    Mark Bringans

    13 Feb, 2015 11:48 am

    You mean you didnt make 600 status credits, so renewal decison was taken out of your hands

    Maybe they couldn trial this in Melbourne where the weather permits them to dress in such an uptight way

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  • Lala295

    Lala295

    12 Feb, 2015 09:47 pm

    Hope Kids are exempt as well, imagine a 7 year old getting dressed up when he is going from the Gold Coast to Sydney in 40 degree heat. Next thing limits on food and banning kids and guests.

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  • Robert  K

    Robert K

    12 Feb, 2015 10:58 pm

    Gold Coast has never had 40 degree heat 

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  • Hugo

    Hugo

    13 Feb, 2015 07:31 am

    False! Broadbeach (for instance) recorded a record high of 40.5 on the 21st of February 2004. 

    http://weather.mla.com.au/climate-history/qld/broadbeach

    (I don't know why I felt the need to look that up)

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  • Robert  K

    Robert K

    12 Feb, 2015 10:56 pm

    ha le lu ya it's about time , no more thongs , singlets and board short , come on Australia it doesn't happen in any buisness lounge in the world and let's not talk about first class lounges globally , NOT Kewl , not fashionable , GROW UP! Put some clothes on the world is waiting,  more like  leaving us behind , huge disraspect to qantas investment in giving us world beating decor , service, food and space ...seriously would you turn up to the dinner table in swimwear ,,,, No further coment 

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  • Robert  K

    Robert K

    12 Feb, 2015 11:08 pm

    So being on a contract to fly in fly out, or lack of any social etiquette makes it right to be sloppy and have not dress effort . No problems most qantas airport have great food courts hang out there , or actually the virgin lounge is far more less restrictive actually more excepting of a lesser dress code,  I know as I am platinum with both , virgin Fluoro excepted , qantas shoes , shirt , long pants are the norm ,,,,,.

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  • Robert  K

    Robert K

    12 Feb, 2015 11:25 pm

    Who care dress up grow up 

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  • mitchimus

    mitchimus

    12 Feb, 2015 11:33 pm

    It had been fun reading the comments.  Amazing how such an unimportant thing in real terms garners so much heat.  Oh well,  fist world problems I guess.  :) 

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  • mitchimus

    mitchimus

    12 Feb, 2015 11:36 pm

    First even....now something that does annoy me is bloody predictive text. I know you should always read something before hitting send, but really,  it is very annoying when you get caught out. 

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  • spentan

    spentan

    13 Feb, 2015 05:58 am

    As long as my dress shorts (dark denim), Birkenstock sandals and a t-shirt/baseball jersey are allowed in, I'm good.

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  • ashnic7g

    ashnic7g

    13 Feb, 2015 09:02 am

    If it is to be enforced on April 1st, I wonder what attire we may see on the 31st March.

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  • Dan Lavis

    Dan Lavis

    13 Feb, 2015 10:37 am

    Great. About time! If the bogans don't like it, they can get back out into the terminal where they belong. 

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  • crosscourt

    crosscourt

    13 Feb, 2015 10:38 am

    BRAVO! WELL DONE QANTAS! Its about darn time. I have been on this point for ages. Now also make sure its extended to the international lounges in places like Singapore and Hong Kong etc where the scruffiness of some passengers is unacceptable. And take it a step further and carry it through with regards to the front cabins of the aircraft as well. 

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  • TimR

    TimR

    13 Feb, 2015 10:39 am

    about time.

    c'mon MOGANs, make an effort...

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  • BevanMcBevan

    BevanMcBevan

    13 Feb, 2015 10:57 am

    Jeez, this has got the rabble writing!

    It (the statement) is more than reasonable. It's not that hard to look smart, just takes a little effort. You can still be casual and look good. 

    If entry (and the volume of people now at Plat) is an issue just raise the bar of qualification....and this will get the rabble writing again!

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  • gavin carpenter

    gavin carpenter

    13 Feb, 2015 11:04 am

    Travel animal class, expect thongs, t shirts, runing shorts, pyjamas that bogans tend to wear, jump out of bed, jump on a plane.

    We tend to dress reasonably in any instance but have to put up with bogans and idiots and from time to time that has not been pleasant.

    travel business class we expect to have a bit of decorum in dress sense, do not believe it is too much to expect. On long flights a decent track suit or si milar for comfort is reasonable.

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  • jeff slack

    jeff slack

    13 Feb, 2015 12:16 pm

    Sick to death of paying close to 14K for my return flights to NYC and home to Sydney only to find I am seated next to a thonged board short yahoo that flouted the dress rules.....and got away with it!

    Please extend this RULE to the cabin.

    Lay down with dogs and you get up with fleas.

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  • Spaz

    Spaz

    13 Feb, 2015 01:19 pm

    So what effect did that have on you?

    Did you need counseling after that you poor thing?

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  • jeff slack

    jeff slack

    13 Feb, 2015 02:11 pm

    Of course I did not require counseling why would I?

    I could have sat down the back with the rest of the thong brigade but choose to work harder and sit nicer and be treated with respect and not contempt.

    You clearly have a problem Spaz; maybe a ride on Scoot or Jetstar would make you feel more justified to what you feel so entitled to, as there are plenty on those flights that do not care.

    QANTAS is a full service carrier, your sense of entitlement to do what ever you please where ever you please and not obey any rules is exactly what is wrong with most of todays society.

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  • Hugo

    Hugo

    13 Feb, 2015 02:33 pm

    I love all the snobbery in this thread. Like most snobbery it comes largely from the people who have the least to be snobbish about, or perhaps are very insecure about their own place on the social totem pole. 

    When your airline status is your *only* status, you get a little insecure when it's threatened.

    You do realise that many of the "thong brigade" no doubt work harder and make a lot more money than you do, right?

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  • jeff slack

    jeff slack

    13 Feb, 2015 03:29 pm

    Buddy?You make one too many assumptions.

    There is nothing wrong with standards and there is nothing snobby about agreeing with them and taking them on board as a way you would like things to be.

    You disagree and I understand that.

    Might I suggest, (respectfully so I do not upset you any further) that you read the other threads here.

    Most are in agreement, and also mention poor hygene, and bare feet of passengers sat in the premium section of the plane.

    I work my freakin butt off for my trips up the Pacific, and I respect QANTAS as a premium carrier and choose to fly with them because I know my hard work gets paid off with their comfort and service.

    Nothinfg snobby about me I can assure you.

    Iam as downt to earth as  thongs and stubbies, but my differance to you is I understand when it is appprorpritae to wear thongs and shorts and when NOT to.

    I will think of you next time I clean out my garage, or wash out the garbage bins  (in my thongs and stubbies) and reflect on this style of dress is your choce of how you want the world to see you.

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  • Texrex79

    Texrex79

    13 Feb, 2015 09:46 pm

    @jeff makes the point I've been trying to put in words. I like his comment. I'm not a snob. I live  on the "edges" of have and have not as you've said a few times. So when I pay big bucks for great service, I want to see others who respect the journey and level of service they're in!

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  • jeff slack

    jeff slack

    14 Feb, 2015 11:09 am

    Thank you,

    Only people that have issues with them selves throw around the word 'snob' when they perceive another may have standards, a corporation or buisness may have standards.

    Spaz just needs to calm down.

    If he were seated next to me in his shorts and thongs, I would not say anything, I would not request a change of seat. He would never know my disgust for his appearance.

    However I would write QANTAS a letter and ask them about their standards.

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  • Mark Bringans

    Mark Bringans

    16 Feb, 2015 03:05 pm

    and sit their stewing for the whole flight Jeff

    biting your tongue, giving you someting cancerous

    because of your hard earned 14k you took off your mortgage drawdown

    conservsatism often masks incompetence

    so if it was a bearded Hugh Jacman in the seat next door in shorts n flips flps

    im sure its a double standard as you know hes wealthy n famous

    but the other bearded gent you have a problem as you dont know who he is but i bet you'd have you're nose out of joit if he was wealthier than the whole cabin

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  • Mark Bringans

    Mark Bringans

    16 Feb, 2015 03:10 pm

    and sit their stewing for the whole flight Jeff

    biting your tongue, giving you someting cancerous

    because of your hard earned 14k you took off your mortgage drawdown

    conservsatism often masks incompetence

    so if it was a bearded Hugh Jacman in the seat next door in shorts n flips flps

    im sure its a double standard as you know hes wealthy n famous

    but the other bearded gent you have a problem as you dont know who he is but i bet you'd have you're nose out of joit if he was wealthier than the whole cabin

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  • Spaz

    Spaz

    13 Feb, 2015 01:19 pm

    So what effect did that have on you?

    Did you need counseling after that you poor thing?

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  • Seb81

    Seb81

    16 Feb, 2015 12:51 am

    What a pretentious generalising comment. What difference does the thonged board short-wearing 'yahoo' you refer to make to your flight? Wait.....is it his feet smelling because of the thongs? Yours do too mate when you take off your crocodile skin leather shoes in the cabin. What else could offend you from attire alone? Snobbery at its worst. "Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas..." HA HA HA what sort god-like figure are you

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  • crosscourt

    crosscourt

    6 Apr, 2015 02:00 am

    Bingo. Exactly my thoughts. on twitter i had a woman from Surfers refer to me as a c*** thinking i had that much power to push QF into this policy having raised the issue months ago. it was followed by another tweet from her using the f*** My response was "if it keeps uncouth people like you out then the policy is working" and she was blocked. Keep it up QF and as mentioned before apply it to Singapore and Hong Kong lounges. As someone above mentioned, feet up on coffee tables needs to be stopped as well. What the heck is wrong with these people. These places are NOT your personal domain or your homes.

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  • Spaz

    Spaz

    13 Feb, 2015 01:16 pm

    Qantas wake up!!!

    I pay to fly with you First class & Buisness and im a Platunim one with you every month @ a cost of $10,000 a round trip.

    Also my company spends over $300K+ a year on flights with Qantas.

    Now Qantas are telling CUSTOMERS what I can wear in your lounge, get real Qantas.

    I WANT to ware my thongs & shorts on the flight as I the CUSTOMER that is keeping Qantas afloat.

    Stop dictating YOUR CUSTOMERDS QANTAS.

    Just another reason to PISS QANTAS OFF....

    NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER QANTAS...........

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  • Hugo

    Hugo

    13 Feb, 2015 02:17 pm

    Boy, for that kind of money you'd think that your company could afford to hire someone who knows (a) how to spell, and (b) how to use the Caps Lock key.

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  • Jared wyles

    Jared wyles

    13 Feb, 2015 03:30 pm

    Seems pretty well versed on how to use the caps lock key :D

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  • brinkers

    brinkers

    13 Feb, 2015 02:43 pm

    If you pay attention to the article, you may have noticed that it makes no reference at all to the First Lounge.

    Not only that, they are not dictating what to wear, they are just giving some guidance on what not to wear...

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  • Texrex79

    Texrex79

    13 Feb, 2015 09:50 pm

    Get your own plane then Bazza! Then you can wear your edible crotchless undies that your Shazza cashed up wife must love licking up. Money never bought you respect. Respect others with your dress sense and better yourself as a person in general.....

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  • Rufus1

    Rufus1

    13 Feb, 2015 11:09 pm

    At risk of continuing the flame war - the airline makes an effort to create create a certain standard in its lounges and cabins.  It's disrespectful to their staff (who are always well presented) and your fellow passengers if you blatantly ignore that.

    The era of hat and gloves to fly is well and truly over, but you'll find most people sitting up the front of a plane are reasonably smartly dressed.  It's a mark of respect for the staff and the experience they are trying to offer.  Anyone who takes the view that "I'm paying $10k for this flight, I'll dress how I want" is showing a pretty unpleasant level of arrogance.

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  • AWA2602

    AWA2602

    14 Feb, 2015 12:32 am

    This is GREAT news!!  Though the concept of "smart casual" still baffles me, just as much as "business casual" does.

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  • gupayami

    gupayami

    14 Feb, 2015 12:04 pm

    Qantas has clearly done this for a reason. And that reason is that business travellers are often preferring to travel on SQ, CX, EK etc instead of QF to avoid the bogarazzi. Losing business revenue to your competitors is a great motivator.

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  • Rusty1

    Rusty1

    14 Feb, 2015 02:36 pm

    Well done Qantas.  The negative comments in these threads reflect the unfortunate, increasing attitude in today's society - it's all about ME; stuff everyone else. I look forward to Qantas enforcing the rules.

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  • Bavarian

    Bavarian

    14 Feb, 2015 04:40 pm

    A dress code for the lounge - enforced as business casual. So no singlets, shorts and thongs for the blokes. Simple. But then, girls will be allowed to wear thongs, since they are designer stuff, a singlet is renamed to a spaghetti strap and shorts will be designer hot pants. Here we go...

    Plus: Who is offended by someone's dress in a lounge? There are people from around the globe travelling on any possible mission, wearing whatever is appropriate for this: Would someone be offended by a kippah? Is a caftan business casual? Offensive, since it might show religious beliefs?

    Is it business casual for a crossdresser to walk in on high heels, wearing a skirt? Would Conchita Wurst, the famous female singer winning last years Eurovision Song Contest (Oz is participating this year!) who hasn't always been female and wears a beard appropriatly dressed for the lounge?

    Who are we to judge by dress? In a very liberal, free and open country are we allowed to deny access based on dress? Especially to such a unelaborated place as a lounge is? It's nothing more than a bit more private waiting room at an airport.

    It's a mere stop on a journey, it's relaxation, it's sometimes sophisticated. But it is not - as the article argues - similiar to a restaurant or club. They are the destination of my travel, not a "time filler" on my way to my destination.

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  • gupayami

    gupayami

    14 Feb, 2015 04:56 pm

    Don't overthink it dude.

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  • Seb81

    Seb81

    16 Feb, 2015 12:59 am

    Loving the enevitable snobbery on this particular article, relating to FIFO workers. Somehow if you are wearing traditional 'business' attire, you consider yourself in an elite class of citizenship who shouldn't have to mingle with the grubby mine workers. Keep in mind, that it's these mine workers who probably saved the Qantas domestic fleet from becoming extinct over the last few years. They have earned the status credits, or paid for club membership just like you. 

    Agree that all clothing should be clean and hygenic, but get a reality check if you think that Australia's biggest commodity export isn't going to dictate 'typical' dress in the lounges. 

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  • mrmaxwell

    mrmaxwell

    17 Feb, 2015 10:48 pm

    I am in the club on a regular basis in jeans, tshirt and thongs. I am presentable, clean and polite and will not change due to this silly rule.

    There are way too many important things on my mind at any one time than to worry about who is wearing dirty hi vis gear in the lounge...

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  • Mim

    Mim

    18 Feb, 2015 06:43 pm

    How silly! Who looks at the way anyone else is dressed in the lounge or for that matter on the plane? If I want to wear thongs that's my business - avert you eyes! If I'm too fat or too old please look away! 

    Good grief does it matter? God forbid one of those cashed up bogans have to look at someone not up to scratch!!!

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  • Ross James

    Ross James

    22 Feb, 2015 09:19 pm

    I would extend this to people displaying a tattoo, and lip/tongue piercings.

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  • Daylan78

    Daylan78

    6 Mar, 2015 04:44 pm

    Hi Ross, I do not often walk around with my tongue hanging out for all to see my piercings. Especially NOT in the Lounges. Does my tongue piercing take away from my professionalism and what i do for a living? Am i not entitled to peace and quiet and a work space before boarding my flight because i have a hole in my tongue? My clean and pressed business suit, post grad degrees and high level job are all for naught because of a little piercing? I agree with the smart and neat casual, but policing piercings to keep in line with someone predjudices and character misjudgements are a little ridiculous. I believe its more about behaviour than piercings.

    Meanwhile, the drunken corporates in their crumpled business suits with shirts half hanging out, stinking of BO, slobbering on the female ground staff and flashing around their "platinum One" status all over the place... can still dress and behave like animals... buts that okay, as long as those wretched tongue and lip piercings are kept WELL hidden! 

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  • enuff42

    enuff42

    24 Feb, 2015 08:51 pm

    I have personaly complained to Qantas on 3 occassions regarding the dress standard within the lounge.  Singlets, hairy armpits crumpled mining work attire - no excuse for this as a standard.  QANTAS are tardy in taking so long to address the situation.  Bet you they will not set a proper standard.

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  • Ivan Andolfatto

    Ivan Andolfatto

    9 Mar, 2015 08:36 pm

    Happy to read about dress standards, however let's put this discussion into perspective.

    first allowing ground staff to have an overriding discretion based on a subjective test is problematic

    secondly I would rather have a seated passenger wearing a tank top and flip flops rather than an elegantly dressed individual who has bad body odour that is only noticeable and recognizable to those around the individual.

    should an airline carrier implement a policy to capture these travellers or are the powers to be so stuck on visual matters above other matters in order to make trips and in some instances trips of 15 hours plus unbearable.

    i know I would rather sit next to someone who may have shorts and a tshirt than a body ordour which only fumigation will correct and no place to move.

    but hey we are potentially visual and shallow people so who cares right!

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  • Ivan Andolfatto

    Ivan Andolfatto

    9 Mar, 2015 08:40 pm

    Happy to read about dress standards, however let's put this discussion into perspective.

    first allowing ground staff to have an overriding discretion based on a subjective test is problematic

    secondly I would rather have a seated passenger wearing a tank top and flip flops rather than an elegantly dressed individual who has bad body odour that is only noticeable and recognizable to those around the individual.

    should an airline carrier implement a policy to capture these travellers or are the powers to be so stuck on visual matters above other matters in order to make trips and in some instances trips of 15 hours plus unbearable.

    i know I would rather sit next to someone who may have shorts and a tshirt than a body ordour which only fumigation will correct and no place to move.

    but hey we are potentially visual and shallow people so who cares right!

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  • ezihose

    ezihose

    3 Apr, 2015 11:52 am

    It should be but not with those want to have their shirt buttoned up with cable ties or using the big cable ties as a belt!

    But Perth's lounge is a basket case anyway, its too small and there needs to be a massive business class lounge so that mine workers and the general public can have a good lounge service without needing to be dressed in a 3 piece suit.

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  • Himeno

    Himeno

    3 Apr, 2015 08:21 pm

    This is policy is complely unneeded. It does not address the real problem, behavour.

    If someone has an issue with someone else's appearance, the only person with a problem is the one who has the issue.

    This only leads to discrimation.

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  • Glenn Miller

    Glenn Miller

    7 Apr, 2015 07:42 pm

    I agree completely.

    The issue is not dress attire; I enjoy travelling in tracksuit pants. I do not do this to offend anyone, nor should it. Dress Code is simply easier to police than behaviour.

    I m never offended by the amount of skin that anyone wants to reveal with clothing, their money is as good as mine. What I do detest is loud unacceptable behaviour that could reasonably be found in any public bar at 6pm on any week day; Suits included.

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